Hello, all,
I have put together, with the help of SV Singam, an RFD (Request for
Discussion) to rename comp.databases.oracle to
comp.databases.oracle.misc, and to create three new groups:
comp.databases.oracle.admin, comp.databases.oracle.tools, and
comp.databases.oracle.marketplace.
I have included below most of the text from the formal RFD, but with
the procedural parts about voting removed. This is not a formal
RFD. This is not a Call for Votes (CFV). If this document meets
with general approval of you in this group, then I will go ahead and
submit it as a formal RFD.
The groups being proposed here are those which the recent straw poll
indicated would be the best received, except that the jobs suffix
needed to be changed to marketplace, and the server/rdbms/dba suffix
was changed to admin. These changes are the result of discussions
with the usenet group mentors.
I am posting the text from the RFD here for everyone's inspection,
in hopes of receiving constructive suggestions for its improvement.
I will attempt to polish it as much as possible, and get it ready
for final submission.
There are two parts to the text: the Rationale, which is the
argument as to why the group changes should be made; and the Charter
for each proposed group. The charters are intended as the "ground
rules" for the group, which participants posting articles should
adhere to.
I will monitor the newsgroup for your comments. If you want to
email me, please use: stevec_at_csufresno.edu and not my AOL address.
Please do not repost or email the entire document along with your
comments.
Steve Cosner <stevec_at_csufresno.edu>
Fresno, California, USA
REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
unmoderated group comp.databases.oracle.misc (renames
comp.databases.oracle)
unmoderated group comp.databases.oracle.admin
unmoderated group comp.databases.oracle.tools
unmoderated group comp.databases.oracle.marketplace
Newsgroups lines:
comp.databases.oracle.misc Oracle related topics.
comp.databases.oracle.admin Oracle database/server administration.
comp.databases.oracle.tools Oracle software tools/applications.
comp.databases.oracle.marketplace Oracle-related jobs, etc.
RATIONALE: all groups
The group comp.databases.oracle exists for posting a wide variety of
articles related to the Oracle database and associated tools. This
is an active group with 100 to 300 articles posted each day. The
articles are generally quite specific, dealing with the Oracle
database, administration of databases, management of tables,
optimization of indexes, problems related to Oracle Forms,
development tools in general, ways to improve screen design and so
on. There are also a large number of postings on Oracle related
jobs. The separation of these topics into relevant groups will
improve the efficiency of these groups. It will facilitate reading
and answering articles for those who have a more specific area of
interest. A straw poll taken within the comp.databases.oracle
newsgroup indicates that a large majority favors splitting the
group.
RATIONALE: rename comp.databases.oracle to
comp.databases.oracle.misc
This group will provide a forum for topics which do not fall within
any more specific comp.databases.oracle subgroup. Renaming the
group should better define the subjects of articles posted there.
The .misc suffix will help people reading the newsgroup understand
that it is a catch-all for miscellaneous topics.
The straw poll indicated that many preferred to keep
comp.databases.oracle, with no name change. However, a larger
percentage preferred to rename the group. This has been a topic of
heated discussions in other groups within the Usenet. It is the
decision of the proponents to go with the majority, with the hope
that this will not cause too much controversy here.
RATIONALE: comp.databases.oracle.admin
This group will be a channel for database-administration-specific
topics, a major area of Oracle discussions. The suffix, "admin" was
chosen since this newsgroup will be especially of interest to
database administrators.
RATIONALE: comp.databases.oracle.tools
This group will provide a forum to discuss the wide range of tools
and applications available from or for Oracle, which is now a major
area of interest and generates much newsgroup traffic.
RATIONALE: comp.databases.oracle.marketplace
This newsgroup should provide a specific place for those interested
in the Oracle-related job market, as well as any other Oraclerelated
products and services for sale or wanted. Creation of this
group will provide relief to the many readers of the newsgroup who
are annoyed by the large number of commercial advertisement
postings.
CHARTER: comp.databases.oracle.misc
Comp.databases.oracle.misc is a newsgroup where topics generally
related to the use of software from Oracle Corporation may be
posted. This group provides a forum for topics which do not fall
within any of the more specific comp.databases.oracle subgroups.
This newsgroup is not intended as a marketplace where employment
advertisements or commercial announcements may be posted. These
should be directed to comp.databases.oracle.marketplace (unless it
is not created by the CFV).
CHARTER: comp.databases.oracle.admin
Comp.databases.oracle.admin is a newsgroup to discuss Oracle server
administration subjects. These include discussions of interest to
database administrators and system administrators.
The following list is a sample of topics which are included in this
newsgroup:
Oracle database or server installation
Database creation and development
Database administration
Database tuning
Techniques for more efficient access
Importing and Exporting data
CHARTER: comp.databases.oracle.tools
Comp.databases.oracle.tools is a newsgroup provided for discussion
of software applications and tools available from Oracle
Corporation, or designed to work with Oracle applications.
Applications developers will find this most useful.
This group includes but is not limited to articles discussing
applications and topics such as the following:
Oracle Developer 2000 (Forms, Reports, Graphics)
Designer 2000
SQL Plus
Training and books
Due to the wide variety of applications which are discussed in this
group, each article title should begin with the application it
involves (examples: Forms4.5: Reports2.5: SQL/Plus: etc.) Do
not use the more general titles such as "Designer 2000". Do not use
general titles such as "A simple question".
CHARTER: comp.databases.oracle.marketplace
Comp.databases.oracle.marketplace is a newsgroup provided for
commercially oriented articles, including those covered by the
following topics:
jobs available
positions wanted
services offered
software or hardware wanted or available for sale
books and other literature available
announcements of new products
Posting jobs available to any other comp.databases.oracle newsgroups
should be avoided.
CHARTER: all groups (This is to be added to each charter.)
Cross-posting articles to multiple comp.databases.oracle.*
newsgroups should be avoided. If there is any question as to which
group should be used, post to comp.databases.oracle.misc (assuming
it is created). While some news servers deliver a cross-posted
article to the reader only once, many others deliver the article an
additional time for each group the reader accesses.
END CHARTER:
This RFD attempts to fully comply with Usenet newsgroup creation
guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and
"How to Make a New Group Proposal". Please refer to these documents
if you have questions about the process.
Proponent : SV Singam <vijia_at_pop.jaring.my>
Proponent : Steve Cosner <steve_cosner_at_csufresno.edu>
Received on Thu May 16 1996 - 00:00:00 CEST
