Re: RFD to split comp.databases.oracle <----------------------

stevec5088_at_aol.com (Stevec5088) wrote:

>Hello, all,
 

>I have put together, with the help of SV Singam, an RFD (Request for
>Discussion) to rename comp.databases.oracle to
>comp.databases.oracle.misc, and to create three new groups:
>comp.databases.oracle.admin, comp.databases.oracle.tools, and
>comp.databases.oracle.marketplace.
 

>I have included below most of the text from the formal RFD, but with
>the procedural parts about voting removed. This is not a formal
>RFD. This is not a Call for Votes (CFV). If this document meets
>with general approval of you in this group, then I will go ahead and
>submit it as a formal RFD.
 

>The groups being proposed here are those which the recent straw poll
>indicated would be the best received, except that the jobs suffix
>needed to be changed to marketplace, and the server/rdbms/dba suffix
>was changed to admin. These changes are the result of discussions
>with the usenet group mentors.

NO! *KEEP* the 'Jobs' suffix - if I were looking for a job I would *NEVER* think of looking in a 'Marketplace' newsgroup!

>I am posting the text from the RFD here for everyone's inspection,
>in hopes of receiving constructive suggestions for its improvement.
>I will attempt to polish it as much as possible, and get it ready
>for final submission.
 

>There are two parts to the text: the Rationale, which is the
>argument as to why the group changes should be made; and the Charter
>for each proposed group. The charters are intended as the "ground
>rules" for the group, which participants posting articles should
>adhere to.
 

>I will monitor the newsgroup for your comments. If you want to
>email me, please use: stevec_at_csufresno.edu and not my AOL address.
>Please do not repost or email the entire document along with your
>comments.
 

>Steve Cosner <stevec_at_csufresno.edu>
>Fresno, California, USA
>-----------------------------------------
 

>REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
>unmoderated group comp.databases.oracle.misc (renames
>comp.databases.oracle)
>unmoderated group comp.databases.oracle.admin
>unmoderated group comp.databases.oracle.tools
>unmoderated group comp.databases.oracle.marketplace
 

>Newsgroups lines:
>comp.databases.oracle.misc Oracle related topics.
>comp.databases.oracle.admin Oracle database/server administration.
>comp.databases.oracle.tools Oracle software tools/applications.
>comp.databases.oracle.marketplace Oracle-related jobs, etc.
 

>RATIONALE: all groups
 

>The group comp.databases.oracle exists for posting a wide variety of
>articles related to the Oracle database and associated tools. This
>is an active group with 100 to 300 articles posted each day. The
>articles are generally quite specific, dealing with the Oracle
>database, administration of databases, management of tables,
>optimization of indexes, problems related to Oracle Forms,
>development tools in general, ways to improve screen design and so
>on. There are also a large number of postings on Oracle related
>jobs. The separation of these topics into relevant groups will
>improve the efficiency of these groups. It will facilitate reading
>and answering articles for those who have a more specific area of
>interest. A straw poll taken within the comp.databases.oracle
>newsgroup indicates that a large majority favors splitting the
>group.
 

>RATIONALE: rename comp.databases.oracle to
>comp.databases.oracle.misc
 

>This group will provide a forum for topics which do not fall within
>any more specific comp.databases.oracle subgroup. Renaming the
>group should better define the subjects of articles posted there.
>The .misc suffix will help people reading the newsgroup understand
>that it is a catch-all for miscellaneous topics.
 

>The straw poll indicated that many preferred to keep
>comp.databases.oracle, with no name change. However, a larger
>percentage preferred to rename the group. This has been a topic of
>heated discussions in other groups within the Usenet. It is the
>decision of the proponents to go with the majority, with the hope
>that this will not cause too much controversy here.
 

>RATIONALE: comp.databases.oracle.admin
 

>This group will be a channel for database-administration-specific
>topics, a major area of Oracle discussions. The suffix, "admin" was
>chosen since this newsgroup will be especially of interest to
>database administrators.
 

>RATIONALE: comp.databases.oracle.tools
 

>This group will provide a forum to discuss the wide range of tools
>and applications available from or for Oracle, which is now a major
>area of interest and generates much newsgroup traffic.
 

>RATIONALE: comp.databases.oracle.marketplace
 

>This newsgroup should provide a specific place for those interested
>in the Oracle-related job market, as well as any other Oracle-
>related products and services for sale or wanted. Creation of this
>group will provide relief to the many readers of the newsgroup who
>are annoyed by the large number of commercial advertisement
>postings.
 

>CHARTER: comp.databases.oracle.misc
 

>Comp.databases.oracle.misc is a newsgroup where topics generally
>related to the use of software from Oracle Corporation may be
>posted. This group provides a forum for topics which do not fall
>within any of the more specific comp.databases.oracle subgroups.
 

>This newsgroup is not intended as a marketplace where employment
>advertisements or commercial announcements may be posted. These
>should be directed to comp.databases.oracle.marketplace (unless it
>is not created by the CFV).
 

>CHARTER: comp.databases.oracle.admin
 

>Comp.databases.oracle.admin is a newsgroup to discuss Oracle server
>administration subjects. These include discussions of interest to
>database administrators and system administrators.
 

>The following list is a sample of topics which are included in this
>newsgroup:
> Oracle database or server installation
> Database creation and development
> Database administration
> Database tuning
> Techniques for more efficient access
> Importing and Exporting data
 

>CHARTER: comp.databases.oracle.tools
 

>Comp.databases.oracle.tools is a newsgroup provided for discussion
>of software applications and tools available from Oracle
>Corporation, or designed to work with Oracle applications.
>Applications developers will find this most useful.
 

>This group includes but is not limited to articles discussing
>applications and topics such as the following:
> Oracle Developer 2000 (Forms, Reports, Graphics)
> Designer 2000
> SQL Plus
> Training and books
 

>Due to the wide variety of applications which are discussed in this
>group, each article title should begin with the application it
>involves (examples: Forms4.5: Reports2.5: SQL/Plus: etc.) Do
>not use the more general titles such as "Designer 2000". Do not use
>general titles such as "A simple question".
 

>CHARTER: comp.databases.oracle.marketplace
 

>Comp.databases.oracle.marketplace is a newsgroup provided for
>commercially oriented articles, including those covered by the
>following topics:
> jobs available
> positions wanted
> services offered
> software or hardware wanted or available for sale
> books and other literature available
> announcements of new products
 

>Posting jobs available to any other comp.databases.oracle newsgroups
>should be avoided.
 

>CHARTER: all groups (This is to be added to each charter.)
 

>Cross-posting articles to multiple comp.databases.oracle.*
>newsgroups should be avoided. If there is any question as to which
>group should be used, post to comp.databases.oracle.misc (assuming
>it is created). While some news servers deliver a cross-posted
>article to the reader only once, many others deliver the article an
>additional time for each group the reader accesses.
 

>END CHARTER:
 
>This RFD attempts to fully comply with Usenet newsgroup creation
>guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and
>"How to Make a New Group Proposal". Please refer to these documents
>if you have questions about the process.
 

>Proponent : SV Singam <vijia_at_pop.jaring.my>
>Proponent : Steve Cosner <steve_cosner_at_csufresno.edu>

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