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RE: database administration questions

From: CHAN Chor Ling Catherine (CSC) <clchan_at_nie.edu.sg>
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 17:05:25 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.003E2EE4.20011226165017@fatcity.com>

I quite agree with Kimberly. I used to be a full-fledge Oracle programmer but wanted to dabble with database administration. I asked my boss whether I could be a database administrator. His answer is yes but I still need to maintain my current systems. Now, I am a database administrator-cum-programmer. I support turnkey projects, automate processes for my users, maintain current projects, install/maintain database & support Oracle Applications etc.

Prepare for lots of OT but what the heck, U will get to learn a lots of interesting things in the process ....

New Bees

                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Kimberly Smith [mailto:ksmith2_at_MYFIRSTLINK.NET]
                Sent:   Thursday, December 27, 2001 1:40 AM
                To:     Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
                Subject:        RE: database administration questions

                If you work on a site like I do you could always cross
train.  I am always
                looking for suckers (um, people) to be my backup.  Right now
I use one from
                the Unix team and one from the development team.  Its the
only way I get to
                take vacations and what no.  Check with your current DBA and
see if they are
                willing to train you while you are off doing your 'real'
job.  Of course,
                there are some folks who are worried about job security (or
are just
                assholes)
                and they would not give you the time of day.  You don't want
to learn from
                those folks anyway.  The excuse, "I'm too busy" is not
really valid either.
                Training someone allowed me to offload some of my work.

                -----Original Message-----
                dgoulet_at_vicr.com
                Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 5:30 AM
                To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


                With your current background, your more likely to land a job
as a network
                administrator LONG before you'll end up in a database
position.  Access is
                still
                looked on as a single user system and frankly I haven't run
into any large
                scale
                applications that use it, period.  One of my current tasks
is working with a
                forecasting package that states in the manual that Access
should only be
                used
                for the demos.  Any other application of the package should
use Oracle or
                DB2.
                Also a SPC (Statistical Process Control, for those who don't
know, don't ask
                further) package we're evaluating (actually two of them)
won't work with
                Access
                even for the demos.  Therefore, I'd suggest staying with the
networking
                world.
                It will be around as long as database administration, if not
longer.  Your
                already trained and certified, and getting a Cisco
certification is no small
                feat.  If you really want to move into database admin, your
probably looking
                at
                2 to 3 years of learning and smaller paychecks as you pay
your dues.
                BTW: A database restore usually takes a lot longer than
fixing a network
                outage,
                to boot.

                Dick Goulet

                ____________________Reply Separator____________________
                Author: LBanzali_at_aol.com
                Date:       12/23/2001 11:15 PM

                Hi!
                I'm looking into getting into the field of Database
Administrating.  Right
                now, I have experience with MS Access and have created
several databases for
                companies that I have worked with in the past with Access.

                I'm looking for a jump in my career and the next logical
step for me, I
                would
                think, would be in database field.  However, I also have
some networking
                knowledge (Cisco certified...).  So, I'm looking into the
advantages of both
                fields.  I have some questions & I'm not sure who to ask or
where to get my
                answers.  But, here they go:

                Questions for a Database Administrator:

                1)  What is your typical workday like?
                2) Do you work a lot of overtime?
                3) What are the most valuable databse programs to learn?
                4) If I was to look into learning these, should I take
classes?  Where would
                you recommend I look for classes in the Los Angeles area?
                5) What language, if any, are important (Java, XML, Visual
Basic, etc.)?
                6) What programs are starting to get obsolete?
                7) Is it worth it to get vendor certifications (Microsoft,
Oracle)? If so,
                are there certain books that you recommend to study?
                8) Is it worth it to get a degree?  If so, what specific
one?
                9) Are there any other programs or technologies that are
valuable to learn?
                10) Are there any associations or other groups that you
belong to as a DBA?
                11) What kinds of companies hire DBAs?
                12) What companies do you recommed to work for?  Know of any
currently
                hiring?
                13) With my background, what is the best way to advance and
work my way into
                a real DBA position?

                Thank you, whom ever reads this and answers back with at
least some answers
                to some of the questions.  I really appreciate your help!!!
                Please, respond to me at lbanzali_at_aol.com

                smiles,
                me

                thank you!


<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>Hi!
<BR>I'm looking into getting into the field of Database
Administrating. &nbsp;Right now, I have experience with MS Access and have created several databases for companies that I have worked with in the past with Access.
<BR>
<BR>I'm looking for a jump in my career and the next logical
step for me, I would think, would be in database field. &nbsp;However, I also have some networking knowledge (Cisco certified...). &nbsp;So, I'm looking into the advantages of both fields. &nbsp;I have some questions &amp; I'm not sure who to ask or where to get my answers. &nbsp;But, here they go: &nbsp;
<BR>
<BR>Questions for a Database Administrator:
<BR>
<BR>1) &nbsp;What is your typical workday like?
<BR>2) Do you work a lot of overtime?
<BR>3) What are the most valuable databse programs to learn?
<BR>4) If I was to look into learning these, should I take
classes? &nbsp;Where would you recommend I look for classes in the Los Angeles area?
<BR>5) What language, if any, are important (Java, XML,
Visual Basic, etc.)?
<BR>6) What programs are starting to get obsolete?
<BR>7) Is it worth it to get vendor certifications
(Microsoft, Oracle)? If so, are there certain books that you recommend to study?
<BR>8) Is it worth it to get a degree? &nbsp;If so, what
specific one?
<BR>9) Are there any other programs or technologies that are
valuable to learn?
<BR>10) Are there any associations or other groups that you
belong to as a DBA?
<BR>11) What kinds of companies hire DBAs?
<BR>12) What companies do you recommed to work for?
&nbsp;Know of any currently hiring?
<BR>13) With my background, what is the best way to advance
and work my way into a real DBA position?
<BR>
<BR>Thank you, whom ever reads this and answers back with at
least some answers to some of the questions. &nbsp;I really appreciate your help!!!
<BR>Please, respond to me at lbanzali_at_aol.com
<BR>
<BR>smiles,
<BR>me
<BR>
<BR>thank you!</FONT></HTML>
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