Re: Little design mistakes that can be easily avoided (2): Listenning to CELKO (and CELKO alikes)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2007 22:01:32 -0500
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"Bob Badour" <bbadour_at_pei.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4658dd25$0$4028$9a566e8b_at_news.aliant.net...
> Bruce C. Baker wrote:
>> "Bob Badour" <bbadour_at_pei.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:4658bf81$0$4043$9a566e8b_at_news.aliant.net...
>>
>>>Matthias Klaey wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Bob Badour <bbadour_at_pei.sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Matthias Klaey wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Cimode <cimode_at_hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Chapter 2 of the little things that can be done at little cost to
>>>>>>>avoid misconceptions about RM design.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Lately, I opened a thread that gave opportunity for CELKO to post the
>>>>>>>exact essence of what should *not* be done in design: let
>>>>>>>subjectiveness regulate design instead of logic. I take the
>>>>>>>opportunity of his thread to point out how and why it is wiser to
>>>>>>>ignore such ideas to build better databases. For that I will take
>>>>>>>all
>>>>>>>the posted comments and try to make sense out of them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Regard...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>[...]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hmm. Is this just the usual Celko-bashing in this newsgroup? Did you
>>>>>>intend to write a parody on how to misread and misinterpert other
>>>>>>peoples texts? You don't mean this seriously, do you?
>>>>>
>>>>>Celko is an idiot who need debunking everywhere. You seem to object to
>>>>>debunking idiots.
>>>>
>>>>"Celko is an idiot who need debunking everywhere": This is *your
>>>>opinion* about Celko. I happen to disagree with you (end of *this*
>>>>discussion from my part).
>>>
>>>That Celko is an idiot is a factual matter and not opinion at all.
>>
>> For those of us who are coming a little late to the "Celko is an idiot"
>> thread, could you give a few details about the dimensions of his idiocy?
>> TIA.
>
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I was kinda looking for specifics, Bob; in particular, why /you/ consider
Celko to be an idiot.
At this point, I'm only curious. I'm certainly not defending the man--as if
he needed defending by the likes of me! I'd hate to see this evolve into
what we in another NG refer to as a "Provide Proof Or Retract" challenge.