Re: Discovering new relationships

From: mountain man <hobbit_at_southern_seaweed.com.op>
Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 00:02:24 GMT
Message-ID: <koIHh.8493$8U4.3821@news-server.bigpond.net.au>

"paul c" <toledobythesea_at_oohay.ac> wrote in message news:j1AHh.1241783$1T2.891766_at_pd7urf2no...
> mountain man wrote:

>> "paul c" <toledobythesea_at_oohay.ac> wrote in message 
>> news:2I4Gh.1209192$R63.892904_at_pd7urf1no...
>>
>>>mountain man wrote:
>>>...
>>>
>>>>Database systems theory can instruct you only to a
>>>>certain level about change management.  Practice
>>>>on the other hand, with live and volatile and changing
>>>>data, will also instruct you in the more practical matters
>>>>of evolving relationships in changing schemas.
>>>>...
>>>
>>>This post reminds me of how much I think it is a shame how this group 
>>>spends most of its time dispelling nonsense instead of suggesting 
>>>progress.  I agree completely with the first sentence above, but the 
>>>second leads nowhere.
>>
>>
>> Are you suggesting that there is everything to be gained from
>> the theory of database systems, and nothing to be gained by
>> actually working hands-on with database systems which are
>> to be evolved and change-managed?
>> ...
>

> I didn't put my admittedly sarcastic attitude about this topic very
> clearly.

>

> As of ten years ago, most change management was seat-of-the-pants,
> ignorant of any theory, relying on adhoc rules-of-thumb or so-called
> "best practices", a euphemism for basically nothing, "applied" by a
> selection of mostly mediocre people from various disciplines.

We are discussing the change management of databases and their schemas. I presume, and not the change management of the coffee facilities. Go back 20 years to get a better picture.

> Being
> that way, they were mostly unaware of database theory. I suspect
> nothing about that has changed. If so, change management "practice" now
> lags a further ten years behind.

One moment. Excuse the interruption.
Who, precisely, do you mean by "they".
Be as specific as you please. Received on Wed Mar 07 2007 - 18:02:24 CST