Re: Reminder, blatant ad

"dawn" <dawnwolthuis_at_gmail.com> wrote in message news:1138627515.881224.59700_at_z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
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> x wrote:
> > "dawn" <dawnwolthuis_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1138498404.975129.110220_at_g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > >
> > > Leif B. Kristensen wrote:
> > > > dawn skrev:
> > > >
> > > > > Perhaps we need to define developer. I am calling anyone who is
> > > > > developing software a "developer."
> > >
> > > I still agree with myself on this one
> > >
> > > > Perhaps we need to define
> > > > > software?
> > > > > It is everything "stored on" a computer that is not hardware.
Does
> > > > > that work for you? That would be "soft stuff" that can change,
> > > > > compared to the hardware. I haven't thought long and hard about
that
> > > > > definition, but that is how I perceive it.
> > > >
> > > > That definition would of course aso include the "end user" who only
> > > > punches data into a shrink-wrapped software package. In my view, a
> > > > "developer" should be one who is making software.
> >
> > > That is my view as well and I see where my definitions are not tight
> > > enough to make that clear. If someone is using software, providing
> > > input or using output, but not developing any functions, then I guess
I
> > > would say they are not developing software. However, if that input is
> > > in the form of specs... (e.g. the user type in a bunch of xml
documents
> > > and dtds and then clicks a button to generate an application), then
> > > what?
> >
> > > Anyway, I'm good with saying that a developer is someone developing
> > > software, I'm not as happy with the definiion of software. What is a
> > > nice crisp definition of software?

> > Do you think of a virtual machine as software or hardware ?
> software

> A feature could be in hardware or software, if that is what you mean by
> relative. I don't really like your definitions however. Hardware is
> hard bz you can kick it, not because it is hard to change. But not
> everything you can kick is hardware.

Do you think that hammers are hardware ? Do you think that CD-ROMs are hardware/software ? The instructions on how to build a chair are software ?

> Mathematics is everywhere, in both hardware and software. Cheerss!
Yes. But can you kick it ? :-) Received on Mon Jan 30 2006 - 16:23:30 CET