Re: Opinion of Forms

I agree with the limitations. I have used some languages that truly SUBCLASS. Oracles interpretation of subclassing is still in the dark ages.

Also the object library does not act as a library. It generally requires some manual tweaking after importing objects just to get them to match the original definitions.

Oracle needs some help from some real OOD experts to help them get the concept right.

The interface to windowing classes still is very limited. Also I am constantly running into events that do not fire consistently. (e.g WHEN-WINDOW-ACTIVATED fires when a form is loaded from another form for the first two or three times than it does not fire anymore... go figure)

Oracle has a long way to go to make the GUI development environment truly world class. The back end database is way up there but the tools are overpriced for their capabilities. That's why when I need to develop user friendly interfaces that will include some modern functionality I have to go to other development tools such as Delphi and even MS Visual studio (enterprise version).

Paul Dorsey wrote in message ...
>I disagree that it has lots of limitations.
>I agree that it is hard to know how to make it do what you want.
>
>The only explicit limitations that I see are a lack of cute GUI objects.
>The most serious (IMO) is the lack of a fram object that allows users to
>change column widths and orders at runtime.
>
>Forms, however, REQUIRES a template to be efficient. You either need to buy
>one build your own.
>It also requires a skilled technical lead. Either you get someone to help
>you get up to speed or you get to make the same mistakes we all did getting
>there. The ODTUG conference is comming up, you should consider going. That
>is where the folks who really know the tools gather. You can link to the
>ODTUG web site from ours.
>
>Trying to do it on your own is "sub-optimal".
>
>--
>Paul Dorsey
>Dulcian, Inc.
>www.dulcian.com
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>Mike wrote in message <01bea5cb$50268b40$500312ac_at_ccm>...
>>I would say you're right ! Working on Forms need lots of patience...
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>>Scott Haley <haleysco_at_pilot.msu.edu> ±»Ð´Èëµ½ÎÄÕÂ
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>>> Tell me what you guys think of Oracle Forms. I've been working with it
>>> for some time now and I really, really dislike it. I've worked with
>>> numerous other develpment environments and feel that Forms has the most
>>> limitations of anything I've worked with. Does anyone else have any
>>> thoughts?
>>>
>>>
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Received on Mon May 24 1999 - 20:28:10 CEST