Re: sql issue

Karsten Farell wrote:

> Okay, I rethought it ... and if presented with the same question again,
> I'd respond the same way. If I can give a "complete and total solution"
> in a few lines, then what's the problem? If it requires volumes to
> reply, then I'll refer them to another source. Supplying the answer to a
> question is not a crime, after all. :)
>
> I do *not* have any students. I am *not* an educator. I am *not* trying
> to teach people how to think for themselves. I am *not* trying to prove
> I know the answer to a few questions (actually, I'm always impressed by
> how many people know so much more than I do ... and I've been in the IT
> field for some 35 years).
>
> And by the way, I actually did learn to eat by being spoon fed. I
> certainly didn't come out of the womb knowing how to use a knife, fork
> and spoon. ;)
>
> Hopefully, you take this reply in the spirit in which its written. I
> consider myself a helpful person. Since you can't teach an old dog new
> tricks, I suppose I'll go on like this until my heart stops beating. And
> if you look around, I'm not the only one who supplies exact answers to
> poster's questions ... whether they're students or struggling DBAs.
>
> Daniel Morgan wrote:
> > Please compare your response with those of Bricklen and Kevin. You didn't
> > lend a helping hand ... you didn't give a few pointers ... you handed the
> > complete and total solution.
> >
> > And had it been one of my students I would be less than pleased with both of
> > you.
> >
> > Please rethink what you did ... because I can assure you that no one learns
> > to eat by being spoon fed.
> >

I am an educator ... and the problem is that you are hurting ... not helping. And while I will no pursue this thread any further as doing so would be unproductive (contact me off-line if you wish) I fail to understand why someone would put themself into the position of hurting someone's else's education. These people are presumably studying Oracle beause they want to make a career out of it. They are not taking the classes because it is part of their undergraduate requirements. If they can not be given pointers ... and puzzle out the answer themselves ... then they need to examine other career choices.

Thinking about it this way it may help. Suppose they were in medical school. And they made it past the State Exam by getting the answers to questions from some well-meaning MD in a usenet group. How would you feel when, a year later, they diagnosed you with a tumor and scheduled surgery and chemotherapy?

Daniel Morgan Received on Fri Sep 27 2002 - 17:10:14 CEST