RE: Big bums

From: Noveljic Nenad <>
Date: Wed, 27 May 2020 13:03:04 +0000
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I'm also an avid proponent of the minimalist approach. I don't have anything to add to the reasons already mentioned.

However, mind a small disadvantage: the datapatch utility sometimes assumes wrong dependencies. The developers, possibly, usually test on a fat database with all options installed. For example, the latest PSU wrongly requires XML XDK when patching JDK. So I temporarily install it.

The benefit of travelling light still far outweighs this inconvenience.

Best regards,


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From: <> On Behalf Of Norman Dunbar Sent: Dienstag, 26. Mai 2020 09:05
To:; oracle-l-freelists <> Subject: Re: Big bums

On 26/05/2020 05:42, Stefan Knecht wrote:

> Am I turning into the dinosaur here or are we still supposedly
> fighting an uphill battle against this?

Well, if you are a dinosaur, then I must be too. But then again, I've been on the wrong end of an Oracle Licencing audit caused by - if I remember - patching are re-enabling all the extra cost options that I had carefully disabled at the original install. Most annoying indeed. I do not trust Oracle at all these days.

I agree too that the less there is installed, the less there is to patch, with hopefully, less downtime where downtime is needed for patching.

Just my £0.03 (£0.02 + VAT)


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