Re: Another licensing Q

Thank you all for your input and giving me a pretty good idea on the support. To make this official, we have reached out to the Oracle Account Rep - usually, it takes few weeks to hear back on such questions.

Thanks much!
- Biju

On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 6:06 PM Michael Brown <dba_at_michael-brown.org> wrote:

> Main things I have always heard about licensing:
> 1) Only your contract matters.
> 2) LMS is only permitted to talk to your attorney. Never allow them to
> interact directly with other employees.
>
> --
> Michael Brown
>
>
> On Nov 6, 2017, at 5:55 PM, Seth Miller <sethmiller.sm_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> *"This document is for educational purposes only and provides guidelines
> regarding Oracle's policies in effect as of April 13, 2017. It may not be
> incorporated into any contract and does not constitute a contract or a
> commitment to any specific terms"*
>
> The document is an interesting read and provides some useful information.
> It means absolutely nothing when it comes to your contractual obligations.
>
>
> Seth Miller
>
> On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 4:11 PM, Alfredo Abate <alfredo.abate_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The document that Stefan has presented is what I was remembering from a
>> while back when it comes to disabling cores in the BIOS.
>>
>> In the past, I have physically pulled CPU sockets out of the server to
>> get the server where it needed to be. Luckily server CPU utilization was
>> low enough to begin with that it didn't impact the system once the sockets
>> were removed. I wouldn't recommend this route unless you know if your
>> application/database can sustain with a reduced horsepower.
>>
>> Alfredo
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Stefan Knecht <knecht.stefan_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This is actually documented by Oracle, here:
>>>
>>> http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/pricing/partitioning-070609.pdf
>>>
>>> In a nutshell, disabling something in a BIOS is not an approved method
>>> of reducing the number of cores. You need to use one of the listed methods
>>> and you'll be fine.
>>>
>>>
>>> Stefan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 12:26 AM, Atkinson, Matthieu <
>>> matthieu.atkinson_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I have customers running OVM on non-Oracle hardware that have
>>>> successfully completed an Oracle audit... as a matter of fact, in france at
>>>> least, there's an increase demand in OVM deployments outside of ODA.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 3:37 PM, Andrew Kerber <andrew.kerber_at_gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am pretty sure that Oracle will only accept that method on Oracle
>>>>> hardware, ie ODA. You will probably need to license all of them on any
>>>>> other hardware. That is not any sort of official answer of course, but its
>>>>> my best guess.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 2:41 AM, Marian Bednar <bednar_at_nbs.sk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Thomas,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> only note - on bare-metal servers output form “cat
>>>>>> /proc/cpuinfo|grep processor|wc –l” usually show the number of
>>>>>> threads (if multithreading is on) then number of cores is half of it. Try
>>>>>> command "lscpu".
>>>>>> Number of cores you can also see in oracle alert.log during instance
>>>>>> startup (since 11.2.0.4), e.g.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Initial number of CPU is 16
>>>>>> Number of processor cores in the system is 8
>>>>>> Number of processor sockets in the system is 2
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marian
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Biju Thomas <biju.thomas_at_gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "oracle-l_at_freelists.org" <oracle-l_at_freelists.org>,
>>>>>> Date: 03. 11. 2017 20:38
>>>>>> Subject: Another licensing Q
>>>>>> Sent by: oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Question related to Oracle CPU licensing on Cisco UCS. My current
>>>>>> blade has 32 cores (the result of “cat /proc/cpuinfo|grep processor|wc
>>>>>> –l”). The sysadmin disabled all but four cores on each socket via the UCS
>>>>>> BIOS and got the output of 8 when I ran the same command the second time.
>>>>>> The OS only sees 8. The question is does Oracle allow me to license only 8
>>>>>> visible cores, or do I have to still license all 32 present on the blade?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I believe such licensing is possible on ODA (Oracle Database
>>>>>> Appliance).
>>>>>> *https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E22693_01/doc.12/e25375/chapter1.htm*
>>>>>> <https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E22693_01/doc.12/e25375/chapter1.htm>
>>>>>> With bare-metal, you disable cores that will not be used by the
>>>>>> Oracle Database by adding your hardware Support Identifier (SI) for Oracle
>>>>>> Database Appliance to your My Oracle Support account and creating a key.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks much!
>>>>>> Biju Thomas
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Biju Thomas
>>>>>> *www.bijoos.com* <http://www.bijoos.com/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Andrew W. Kerber
>>>>>
>>>>> 'If at first you dont succeed, dont take up skydiving.'
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
> --
Best,
Biju Thomas
www.bijoos.com

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