Re: Another licensing Q

Make sure you get whatever he or she says in writing.

On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 12:21 PM, Biju Thomas <biju.thomas_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you all for your input and giving me a pretty good idea on the
> support. To make this official, we have reached out to the Oracle Account
> Rep - usually, it takes few weeks to hear back on such questions.
>
> Thanks much!
> - Biju
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 6:06 PM Michael Brown <dba_at_michael-brown.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Main things I have always heard about licensing:
>> 1) Only your contract matters.
>> 2) LMS is only permitted to talk to your attorney. Never allow them to
>> interact directly with other employees.
>>
>> --
>> Michael Brown
>>
>>
>> On Nov 6, 2017, at 5:55 PM, Seth Miller <sethmiller.sm_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> *"This document is for educational purposes only and provides guidelines
>> regarding Oracle's policies in effect as of April 13, 2017. It may not be
>> incorporated into any contract and does not constitute a contract or a
>> commitment to any specific terms"*
>>
>> The document is an interesting read and provides some useful information.
>> It means absolutely nothing when it comes to your contractual obligations.
>>
>>
>> Seth Miller
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 4:11 PM, Alfredo Abate <alfredo.abate_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The document that Stefan has presented is what I was remembering from a
>>> while back when it comes to disabling cores in the BIOS.
>>>
>>> In the past, I have physically pulled CPU sockets out of the server to
>>> get the server where it needed to be. Luckily server CPU utilization was
>>> low enough to begin with that it didn't impact the system once the sockets
>>> were removed. I wouldn't recommend this route unless you know if your
>>> application/database can sustain with a reduced horsepower.
>>>
>>> Alfredo
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Stefan Knecht <knecht.stefan_at_gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is actually documented by Oracle, here:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/pricing/partitioning-070609.pdf
>>>>
>>>> In a nutshell, disabling something in a BIOS is not an approved method
>>>> of reducing the number of cores. You need to use one of the listed methods
>>>> and you'll be fine.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Stefan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 12:26 AM, Atkinson, Matthieu <
>>>> matthieu.atkinson_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have customers running OVM on non-Oracle hardware that have
>>>>> successfully completed an Oracle audit... as a matter of fact, in france at
>>>>> least, there's an increase demand in OVM deployments outside of ODA.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 3:37 PM, Andrew Kerber <andrew.kerber_at_gmail.com
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am pretty sure that Oracle will only accept that method on Oracle
>>>>>> hardware, ie ODA. You will probably need to license all of them on any
>>>>>> other hardware. That is not any sort of official answer of course, but its
>>>>>> my best guess.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 2:41 AM, Marian Bednar <bednar_at_nbs.sk> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Thomas,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> only note - on bare-metal servers output form “cat
>>>>>>> /proc/cpuinfo|grep processor|wc –l” usually show the number of
>>>>>>> threads (if multithreading is on) then number of cores is half of it. Try
>>>>>>> command "lscpu".
>>>>>>> Number of cores you can also see in oracle alert.log during instance
>>>>>>> startup (since 11.2.0.4), e.g.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Initial number of CPU is 16
>>>>>>> Number of processor cores in the system is 8
>>>>>>> Number of processor sockets in the system is 2
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Marian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Biju Thomas <biju.thomas_at_gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "oracle-l_at_freelists.org" <oracle-l_at_freelists.org>,
>>>>>>> Date: 03. 11. 2017 20:38
>>>>>>> Subject: Another licensing Q
>>>>>>> Sent by: oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Question related to Oracle CPU licensing on Cisco UCS. My current
>>>>>>> blade has 32 cores (the result of “cat /proc/cpuinfo|grep processor|wc
>>>>>>> –l”). The sysadmin disabled all but four cores on each socket via the UCS
>>>>>>> BIOS and got the output of 8 when I ran the same command the second time.
>>>>>>> The OS only sees 8. The question is does Oracle allow me to license only 8
>>>>>>> visible cores, or do I have to still license all 32 present on the blade?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I believe such licensing is possible on ODA (Oracle Database
>>>>>>> Appliance).
>>>>>>> *https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E22693_01/doc.12/e25375/chapter1.htm*
>>>>>>> <https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E22693_01/doc.12/e25375/chapter1.htm>
>>>>>>> With bare-metal, you disable cores that will not be used by the
>>>>>>> Oracle Database by adding your hardware Support Identifier (SI) for Oracle
>>>>>>> Database Appliance to your My Oracle Support account and creating a key.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks much!
>>>>>>> Biju Thomas
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> Biju Thomas
>>>>>>> *www.bijoos.com* <http://www.bijoos.com/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Andrew W. Kerber
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'If at first you dont succeed, dont take up skydiving.'
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> //
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>>>
>>>
>> --
> Best,
> Biju Thomas
> www.bijoos.com
>

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