Re: Little design mistakes that can be easily avoided (2): Listenning to CELKO (and CELKO alikes)

From: Bruce C. Baker <bcb_at_undisclosedlocation.net>
Date: Sat, 26 May 2007 22:54:07 -0500
Message-ID: <8h76i.168352$nh4.95495_at_newsfe20.lga>


"paul c" <toledobythesea_at_oohay.ac> wrote in message news:8U66i.227524$aG1.136859_at_pd7urf3no...
> Bruce C. Baker wrote:
>> "Bob Badour" <bbadour_at_pei.sympatico.ca> wrote in message I was kinda
>> looking for specifics, Bob; in particular, why /you/ consider Celko to be
>> an idiot.
>>
>> At this point, I'm only curious. I'm certainly not defending the man--as
>> if he needed defending by the likes of me! I'd hate to see this evolve
>> into what we in another NG refer to as a "Provide Proof Or Retract"
>> challenge.
>
> More often than not, when he writes about db "theory", it consists of not
> much except for name-dropping. That seems like an idiotic interpretation
> of the word "theory", to me.
>

So Celko's on shaky ground when it comes to theory. How would you or others in this NG rate him on practical issues?

> When he goes after what certain people such as Date have said, it is
> amazing how often he misses their point by a mile, this is clear to even a
> part-time, haphazard, amateur student of theory like me.
>

Could you cite one or more specific instances?

> If he would admit he is a hacker and stop pretending to be something else,
> that would be fine with me. Being something of one myself, I get a kick
> out of trying to understand that mentality up to a point, that being when
> it comes to hiring one.
>

Having been brought up short on more than one occasion by how little I actually /know/ about DB theory, I can empathisize! :-)

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