Re: A database theory resource - ideas
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 14:01:30 GMT
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Bruce C. Baker wrote:
> "paul c" <toledobythesea_at_oohay.ac> wrote in message
> news:ooHKh.26513$zU1.14184_at_pd7urf1no...
>
>>Bruce C. Baker wrote:
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>>>...
>>>I don't completely agree with either you or Bob B., but this whole
>>>discussion is moot anyway. Ninety-nine percent of the programmers I know
>>>don't own even /one/ computer book, and nine-tenths of the remaining one
>>>percent never progressed beyond chapter three in the ones they do own.
>>>:-(
>>
>>That trumps me as I don't know 1,000 programmers.
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>>p
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> Neither do I, but of the fifty or so I have worked with in the last
> quarter-century, I'd have to say that only two at most own and/or have read
> even one book, not excluding a "... for Dummies" volume.
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> Just out of curiosity, how does that match up with your experience?
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I'd say that the most noticeable single reading deficiency I've seen among people with CS degrees, even PhD's, is completely inadequate education in the basics of database, often they've never heard of predicate calculus and have never taken any logic course at all.
It's quite clear from this group and others that most people in the db
field have no idea why Codd proposed tables, still confusing that
representation with relations. It doesn't require wide reading, just
careful reading of a few free papers. In fact, when it comes to the
now-ordinary CS techniques that have been invented in the last forty
years, I think a couple of dozen papers would suffice to replace the
biggest library of books.
One phenomenon hasn't changed since I've been around. Since the late
1960's when the machinery cost more than people, to now when the
opposite is true, it's still the case that 9 out of 10 people working in
IT are more or less incompetent and even if they can apply a technique
will never be able to justify if the application is appropriate. This
is also probably true of less technical fields, but those are less
crucial to society. I conclude that the topic is beyond most people's
grasp, what's more that nothing can be done about this as it involves
not only IQ but taste as well.
p Received on Sat Mar 17 2007 - 15:01:30 CET