Re: The wisdom of the object mentors (Was: Searching OO Associations with RDBMS Persistence Models)

From: David Cressey <>
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 20:27:49 GMT
Message-ID: <9zlhg.4706$vq3.2715_at_trndny09>

"Daniel Parker" <> wrote in message
> erk wrote:
> > Andrew McDonagh wrote:

> > >>The people who sell databases have sold you, and the industry, a
> > >>misconception: that the database is the heart of the system. This is
> > >>flawed.
> >
> > REALLY patronizing. Implies gullibility on the part of - well, everyone
> > but Bob, and declares this snake oil (not the subject of discussion,
> > but a straw man) flawed, based evidently on his authority.
> >
> Oh, come on, there's no shortage of gullibility in the world, and
> vendors will exploit it wherever they find it. But vendor's aren't
> evangelizing RDBMS databases anymore, they've moved onto other things,
> like SOA, ESB's, XML databases, etc. Some of these things even have
> some merit, in particular contexts, in the solution of problems. But
> vendors don't care about that.

The argument that, because vendors extoll some facility x, that therefore facility x is without merit, is, in reality, an example of converse reasoning. In general, it's not a convincing proof.

OTOH, telling people that they should be skeptical of vendors is true enough, and probably bears repeating from tmie to time. Received on Tue Jun 06 2006 - 22:27:49 CEST

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