Re: ERWin vs Oracle Designer

IMHO, you have a "political" problem, not a technical one. No tool is good enough to be usefull when the users refuse to use it... Now, I'm from Belgium, so politicians over here "trade" things: if I give you this, you give me that... and they end up spending awefull lots of tax-money <grin>. But as to your question: Oracle Designer gives you "complete" round-trip within reasonable limits. So, it is possible to produce and change your IT-systems fast. But, only if everybody follows suit, which does not seem to be the case in your shop.

However, if you're going to mix tools, I believe you'd be better off to separate the modelling from the programming and just program in whatever you feel fit. Give the DA his toy and ask for compensation on your side (lots of nice tools, like SQL Navigator and the like), this would be the best bet in a Belgium company with enough money to spend...

Anyway, if the DA (and his manager) would be resentfull, they'll f*** up the modelling, and you'll be blamed for bad tuning, I fear. But I can't see what your CEO is thinking, and that's what it all depends upon...

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Dirk Bellemans
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OraSaurus wrote in message ...

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>It isn't that I "want to win" - or even that I feel commited to Designer.

Its


>just that the DA is new and has some time to spend on this and I am

>in typical DBA mode - totally swamped!  In all fairness, he'll be using it

a


>lot more than I so I'm tempted to just let him have his way...  If he knew

>more about it, I probably would.  As is, it just sounds dangerous to give

>in without a real evaluation.  Besides, there is a point to be made here

>about the relationship between the groups and I want to make it before

>this gets out of hand.

>

>I did mention that we might be able to use ERWin for the front end and then

>export/import to Designer on the back end.  Is anyone doing this?  What are

>the gotchas?