Re: Oh, this is so microsoftish ...

On Sun, 25 May 2003 13:04:27 +0200, Sybrand Bakker wrote:

>
> You fully misunderstood me: I was objecting against the 'it's not in
> our system, so it can't happen' attitude, which I noticed in people
> originating from India working in the UK and this support analyst.

May be I misunderstood you and may be you misunderstood me. What I was objecting to was attributing certain mental characteristics to the ethnic origin. Stupidity knows no ethnic boundaries.

> This type of attitude was confirmed to me be several other Dutch
> people: the book they've last read is considered as gospel, and
> anything not in that book simply isn't true. And those Indians (non-
> Oracle personnel) working in the UK: They must have been trained to
> deny all bugs, because it will ultimately result in lawsuits. General
> attitude: if in doubt just deny there's a problem, and cover ur ass.

I used to work in London for some time (Telstra, Paul St., near Broadgate center) and I've never noticed such attitude. May be those Dutch of yours people know some different Indians? How about Chinese or Pakistanis? What is their general attitude.

>
> I don't like being labeled as a racist, and I think the recent history
> of the Croatian people shows they would better keep their mouth shut
> on this issue

The Croatian people as a whole should better shut up? Well, that proves my point beyond reasonable doubt. Thanks for dispelling all doubts.

I also happen to be a senior DBA for quite some time and supporting a big OPS system brings me in contact with Oracle Support on a regular basis. I have never noticed suhc an attitude, despite quite a few objections that I have to their support practices. Needless to say, when you call after hours, you'll almost regularly get a support center in India or Singapore. You should consider using Metalink. Call oracle support, they explain you how to use iTAR to get help. The address is: http://metalink.oracle.com

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