Re: Total oracle newbie

From: Howard J. Rogers <howardjr2000_at_yahoo.com.au>
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 06:40:50 +1100
Message-ID: <pan.2003.02.09.19.40.49.573513@yahoo.com.au>

On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 23:01:23 +1000, Richard Foote wrote:

> "Howard J. Rogers" <howardjr2000_at_yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:pan.2003.02.08.21.03.42.499159_at_yahoo.com.au...

>> On Fri, 07 Feb 2003 13:17:03 +0000, Anthony wrote:
>>
>> For the record, and speaking most definitely NOT as a salesman, the DBA
>> Fundamentals courses (I and II) are about $2,800 each (and each lasts 5
>> days, so you're paying about $560 per day). The Performance Tuning Course
>> costs about $3,200 (another 5 days). And the SQL Course (which I don't
>> teach) is probably another $2,500+, making a grand total of about $12,000.
>>

>
> Hi Howard,
>
> I think when talking about training and the related costings and if it's
> "For the record", it's important to be accurate. As I've said in the past,
> generally speaking Oracle training is excellent but the pricing structure in
> my teeny weeny opinion is simply set too high.
>
> Straight out of the Australian Oracle University website, the costs for
> these courses including GST are in fact (in AU$):
>
> - Introduction to Oracle9i: SQL $3,234.00 ($646.80 / day)
> - Oracle 9i DBA Fundamentals I $3,234.00 ($646.80 / day)
> - Oracle 9i DBA Fundamentals II $4,042.50 ($808.50 / day)
> - Oracle 9i Performance Tuning $4,042.50 ($808.50 / day)

Well, straight out of the website it may be, and thanks for the details, but I wasn't actually trying to flog the stuff to him, assuming as I did that he's capable of getting the details for himself. The 'speaking not as a salesman' was intended as a hint, too, that this stuff was off the top of my head. My only point was that it doesn't cost $12,000 for "a" course.

In any case, listed prices at Oracle are only the beginning of the story, as we both know well enough.

Interesting though that Fundamentals II is classed as an advanced course, which is pushing it a bit, I think.

I can tell you though that in 1990 I was selling (and delivering) two-day training courses for 525 pounds Sterling per day , which I think these days equates to getting on for AUD$1500. So the question as to whether Oracle courses are too expensive is open to interpretation, I feel.

I could wish they would drop the prices a bit, and bump up the numbers accordingly; and I could also wish that the quality of most trainers would go up a bit. And I definitely wish that OCP would mean something sufficient to justify the cost.

But it's not the *complete* rip-off some might think.

Regards
HJR Received on Sun Feb 09 2003 - 13:40:50 CST