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Re: Oracle Right or Wrong

From: Connor McDonald <connor_mcdonald_at_yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 21:24:24 +0100
Message-ID: <3DA49078.5C2A@yahoo.com>


Richard Foote wrote:
>
> Oh, alright.
>
> But can I at least keep my Larry Teddy with the sailor suit and the
> pull-down string at the back that makes him say "This Sydney to Hobart Race
> is a bit rough, think I'm going to throw-up !!".
>
> Can I please keep it ;)
>
> Richard
> "Mike Dwyer" <bdtmike_at_sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:3da43466.237272640_at_news.sf.sbcglobal.net...
> > That's a good start. But you might want to replace those "Larry Boy"
> > Jammies while you're at it, eh?
> >
> > On Wed, 9 Oct 2002 23:17:49 +1000, "Richard Foote"
> > <richard.foote_at_bigpond.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Hi Mike,
> > >
> > >That's it !!
> > >
> > >Thanks to you, I'm going to take down the photo of "His Highness And
> > >Mightiest Larry The Big E" from my bedside table. I mean, it has always
> > >irritated my wife (as it somewhat hides the family photo at the back) and
> my
> > >obsession with Oracle and "The Big E" is just not healthy. Eating Oops
> for
> > >breakfast, as the shapes reminds me of the Oracle font, wearing Oracle
> > >shirts all time (didn't go down too well at the wedding), watching Oracle
> > >marketing videos and not giving kids the opportunity to watch Harry
> Potter,
> > >it's just not right.
> > >
> > >So thank you for your prod, hence forth, I'm a changed man.
> > >
> > >Just got to find the right sized photo of David Bowie to replace Larry ;)
> > >
> > >BTW, if I've ever come across as arrogant or closed minded, please
> forgive
> > >me. Trust me, you'll get to like me, although it can take a while ...
> > >
> > >Cheers
> > >
> > >Richard
> > >"Mike Dwyer" <bdtmike_at_sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> > >news:3da33803.172663517_at_news.sf.sbcglobal.net...
> > >> Over the past several months, I've been learning the in's and out's of
> > >> Oracle programming so that I could port my application over from SQL
> > >> Server. I have received a great deal of help from people in the know,
> > >> and in large part, from these Oracle forums. I find the UseNet to be
> > >> invaluable for getting near-instantaneous feedback from people who are
> > >> out in the real world experiencing the same things that I am.
> > >> Although I've been developing in many languages over the past 20
> > >> years, I'm a newbie to Oracle. As such, I appreciate the constructive
> > >> advice that many of you have given me even though my basic questions
> > >> may have been answered many times over. So, I thank you for all the
> > >> free advice I've been "taking" from this forum.
> > >>
> > >> That said, I've been active in a number of forums in my years but I've
> > >> never seen the level of arrogance and closed mindedness that I see
> > >> from some members of this forum. This posting isn't directed towards
> > >> the people who put forward constructive advice and criticism. This is
> > >> directed towards the people who seem to worship the Oracle God and
> > >> spend as much time pontificating as they do giving advice (if any).
> > >>
> > >> Is it just me? I can't believe that I'm alone in this observation.
> > >> If any of you share my opinion, by all means, chime in here. Some of
> > >> you guys sound like stiff college professors, scolding me for not
> > >> bringing my "books" to class or disagreeing that Oracle is not the
> > >> end-all of DBMS's. I read the postings. When people ask questions,
> > >> they don't always get answers, they get lectures-- and condescending
> > >> critiques, at that. I run a business, I have questions, I need
> > >> answers. Those of you are nice enough to take the time out to help
> > >> me, I thank you. But those who want to lecture and pontificate should
> > >> save it. Hey, if I wanted a lecture, I'd go back to college! Some of
> > >> you guys really need to lighten up.
> > >>
> > >> As a user trying to understand a new product, I like to read the
> > >> members' opinions to find out what the strengths and weaknesses of
> > >> the product are in relation to others in its class. Unfortunately,
> > >> the discussions are rather one-sided in this forum. And from what
> > >> I've seen, people are probably afraid to use the "M" word in here for
> > >> fear they will be flamed and moofed to death (as I will certainly be).
> > >> Some of you guys sound like "Little Larry Ellisons" running around
> > >> with noses in the air phrasing every answer to every question with
> > >> "And that's another reason why Oracle is great and Microsoft sucks.".
> > >> A little objectivity please...
> > >>
> > >> In the interest of debate, can you honestly say that NOTHING that SQL
> > >> server has to offer is better than what Oracle puts out? Or that
> > >> there is NO feature that some other DBMS may have that is superior to
> > >> Oracle? Or that Oracle may have limitations that other products do
> > >> not? If your answer is a resounding "NO" then I think that some of
> > >> you need to open your minds a bit.
> > >>
> > >> To some of you I'm sure I'm sounding like a jerk here. But to others
> > >> in the group, I believe that you know what I'm talking about when it
> > >> comes to the "attitude" in here. In my 3 month long "Trial By Fire",
> > >> I've come to the conclusion that Oracle is, overall, the most powerful
> > >> DBMS out there. But there are areas where Oracle lags behind
> > >> Microsoft and there is room for improvement. I feel like a PC user in
> > >> a Mac group for saying this, but I'd like to see a little more
> > >> objectivity and discussion about the pros and cons in here, that's
> > >> all. God forbid, someone like me admits that in here, but hey, what
> > >> do I know, I'm just a newbie, right <g>?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >

So... a Larry Teddy

Cuddly soft toy or silk lingerie?

:-)

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Connor McDonald

http://www.oracledba.co.uk

"Some days you're the pigeon, some days you're the statue..."
Received on Wed Oct 09 2002 - 15:24:24 CDT

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