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Re: Oracle Right or Wrong

From: Mike Dwyer <bdtmike_at_sbcglobal.net>
Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 20:35:34 GMT
Message-ID: <3da492ab.261405170@news.sf.sbcglobal.net>


The former. a soft, cuddly bear....who happens to be an egomaniac that constantly wonders why he isn't ruling the world right now ;)

On Wed, 09 Oct 2002 21:24:24 +0100, Connor McDonald <connor_mcdonald_at_yahoo.com> wrote:

>Richard Foote wrote:
>>
>> Oh, alright.
>>
>> But can I at least keep my Larry Teddy with the sailor suit and the
>> pull-down string at the back that makes him say "This Sydney to Hobart Race
>> is a bit rough, think I'm going to throw-up !!".
>>
>> Can I please keep it ;)
>>
>> Richard
>> "Mike Dwyer" <bdtmike_at_sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:3da43466.237272640_at_news.sf.sbcglobal.net...
>> > That's a good start. But you might want to replace those "Larry Boy"
>> > Jammies while you're at it, eh?
>> >
>> > On Wed, 9 Oct 2002 23:17:49 +1000, "Richard Foote"
>> > <richard.foote_at_bigpond.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >Hi Mike,
>> > >
>> > >That's it !!
>> > >
>> > >Thanks to you, I'm going to take down the photo of "His Highness And
>> > >Mightiest Larry The Big E" from my bedside table. I mean, it has always
>> > >irritated my wife (as it somewhat hides the family photo at the back) and
>> my
>> > >obsession with Oracle and "The Big E" is just not healthy. Eating Oops
>> for
>> > >breakfast, as the shapes reminds me of the Oracle font, wearing Oracle
>> > >shirts all time (didn't go down too well at the wedding), watching Oracle
>> > >marketing videos and not giving kids the opportunity to watch Harry
>> Potter,
>> > >it's just not right.
>> > >
>> > >So thank you for your prod, hence forth, I'm a changed man.
>> > >
>> > >Just got to find the right sized photo of David Bowie to replace Larry ;)
>> > >
>> > >BTW, if I've ever come across as arrogant or closed minded, please
>> forgive
>> > >me. Trust me, you'll get to like me, although it can take a while ...
>> > >
>> > >Cheers
>> > >
>> > >Richard
>> > >"Mike Dwyer" <bdtmike_at_sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> > >news:3da33803.172663517_at_news.sf.sbcglobal.net...
>> > >> Over the past several months, I've been learning the in's and out's of
>> > >> Oracle programming so that I could port my application over from SQL
>> > >> Server. I have received a great deal of help from people in the know,
>> > >> and in large part, from these Oracle forums. I find the UseNet to be
>> > >> invaluable for getting near-instantaneous feedback from people who are
>> > >> out in the real world experiencing the same things that I am.
>> > >> Although I've been developing in many languages over the past 20
>> > >> years, I'm a newbie to Oracle. As such, I appreciate the constructive
>> > >> advice that many of you have given me even though my basic questions
>> > >> may have been answered many times over. So, I thank you for all the
>> > >> free advice I've been "taking" from this forum.
>> > >>
>> > >> That said, I've been active in a number of forums in my years but I've
>> > >> never seen the level of arrogance and closed mindedness that I see
>> > >> from some members of this forum. This posting isn't directed towards
>> > >> the people who put forward constructive advice and criticism. This is
>> > >> directed towards the people who seem to worship the Oracle God and
>> > >> spend as much time pontificating as they do giving advice (if any).
>> > >>
>> > >> Is it just me? I can't believe that I'm alone in this observation.
>> > >> If any of you share my opinion, by all means, chime in here. Some of
>> > >> you guys sound like stiff college professors, scolding me for not
>> > >> bringing my "books" to class or disagreeing that Oracle is not the
>> > >> end-all of DBMS's. I read the postings. When people ask questions,
>> > >> they don't always get answers, they get lectures-- and condescending
>> > >> critiques, at that. I run a business, I have questions, I need
>> > >> answers. Those of you are nice enough to take the time out to help
>> > >> me, I thank you. But those who want to lecture and pontificate should
>> > >> save it. Hey, if I wanted a lecture, I'd go back to college! Some of
>> > >> you guys really need to lighten up.
>> > >>
>> > >> As a user trying to understand a new product, I like to read the
>> > >> members' opinions to find out what the strengths and weaknesses of
>> > >> the product are in relation to others in its class. Unfortunately,
>> > >> the discussions are rather one-sided in this forum. And from what
>> > >> I've seen, people are probably afraid to use the "M" word in here for
>> > >> fear they will be flamed and moofed to death (as I will certainly be).
>> > >> Some of you guys sound like "Little Larry Ellisons" running around
>> > >> with noses in the air phrasing every answer to every question with
>> > >> "And that's another reason why Oracle is great and Microsoft sucks.".
>> > >> A little objectivity please...
>> > >>
>> > >> In the interest of debate, can you honestly say that NOTHING that SQL
>> > >> server has to offer is better than what Oracle puts out? Or that
>> > >> there is NO feature that some other DBMS may have that is superior to
>> > >> Oracle? Or that Oracle may have limitations that other products do
>> > >> not? If your answer is a resounding "NO" then I think that some of
>> > >> you need to open your minds a bit.
>> > >>
>> > >> To some of you I'm sure I'm sounding like a jerk here. But to others
>> > >> in the group, I believe that you know what I'm talking about when it
>> > >> comes to the "attitude" in here. In my 3 month long "Trial By Fire",
>> > >> I've come to the conclusion that Oracle is, overall, the most powerful
>> > >> DBMS out there. But there are areas where Oracle lags behind
>> > >> Microsoft and there is room for improvement. I feel like a PC user in
>> > >> a Mac group for saying this, but I'd like to see a little more
>> > >> objectivity and discussion about the pros and cons in here, that's
>> > >> all. God forbid, someone like me admits that in here, but hey, what
>> > >> do I know, I'm just a newbie, right <g>?
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>
>So... a Larry Teddy
>
>Cuddly soft toy or silk lingerie?
>
>:-)
>--
>==============================
>Connor McDonald
>
>http://www.oracledba.co.uk
>
>"Some days you're the pigeon, some days you're the statue..."
Received on Wed Oct 09 2002 - 15:35:34 CDT

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