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Re: 1Z0-020 Oracle8i: New Features for Administrators test

From: Richard Foote <>
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 10:10:47 +1000
Message-ID: <eN1_8.38875$>

Hi Pete,

Will you stop disagreeing with me (actually no, I kinda like, oh Pete don't stop, keep going ....)

See my response in the Oracle Certification thread by Steve. I'm basically suggesting in my confusing little way that everything that warrants examination in the upgrade exam should also warrant examination in the standard set of exams as well. If partitioning (for example) is covered in the 8i New Features exam, it should also be covered in either the 8i Administration exam or the 8i Performance Tuning Exam. So everything is nice and consistent.

It really doesn't make sense otherwise.

Your right in that Partitioning may not necessarily be a basic concept but do we want DBAs who pass through the standard exams to be tested on only basic concepts. I think not also.

Debates and differences of opinion are great (so long as you agree with me :)


"Pete Sharman" <> wrote in message
> In article <fHKZ8.38223$>, "Richard
> >
> >Hi All,
> >
> >Just an example of how silly some of these exams are.
> >
> >When you become certified at a particular level (say 8i) all the exams
> >primarily based on the "standard" bread 'n butter concepts. Although
> >are some version specific questions, much of the new stuff is simply not
> >covered. There are *no* partitioning questions in the standard 8i exams.
> >Only the 8i upgrade exams covers many of these new topics (such as
> >partitioning).
> >
> >The main reason for this is that the exams are based entirely on the
> >corresponding Oracle courses. The standard courses simply can't cover all
> >the new features, hence they are not in the exams. The new features are
> >mainly concentrated in the new feature courses hence the upgrade exams
> >always going to be much "harder" and content rich.
> >
> >Therefore you have the scenario where one OCP may potentially have
> >absolutely no knowledge of basic concepts of the DB (such as
> >why another OCP *at the same level* has had to answer these questions
> >(because they upgraded).
> >
> >Work that one out.
> >
> >Richard
> See my response to HJR, but I think you're going a bit far in saying
> partitioning is a "basic concept of the DB". It would be interesting to
> the participants here to see how many are using partitioning. Basic
concepts to
> me means more like starting and stopping databases, creating users etc.
(all the
> stuff covered in the Fundamentals training, really).
> Pete
> >"Van Messner" <> wrote in message
> >
> >> It's not that it is harder, it's that it concentrates on just a few
> >of
> >> Oracle. So you have to know those areas in much more detail than you
> >would
> >> if you took the "regular" 8i tests.
> >>
> >> "Warren" <> wrote in message
> >>
> >> > How hard is the above test compares to the non-upgrade series?
> >> >
> >> > Also, am looking to buy STS's 1Z0-020 Oracle8i: New Features for
> >> > Administrators software. Contact me at with your
> >> > asking price. Thanks.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> HTH. Additions and corrections welcome.
> Pete
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Received on Fri Jul 19 2002 - 19:10:47 CDT

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