Re: Sybrand Bakker

I agree with George. I don't think the purpose of a NG is to hand out answers on a platter without some effort on the posters part. The search for an answer has its own benefits. There is no benefit to the poster to answer a question that they have not tried to first find the answer to. The mere process of looking in the manuals or this NG for the answer is a benefit to the poster even if they don't find the answer. Given the complexity of the product it is quite possible that they will learn something else besides what they were looking for. If nothing else they gain familiarity with the structure of the documentation! I abhor the lazy post which usually looks like : "MS SQLServer/Access does... How do I do ... in Oracle?" Look at Thomas Kyte's site or his answers they basically are structured in most cases around the scientific method; in a subtle way pointing out "Why not try to dream up an example and see how it works? Poke the software and see how it reacts.".

I would much prefer it if people put in their postings (when they are searching for answers), I am trying to do X. I looked in the Blah Blah manual at this and that and did not see anything on it. Also I searched the newsgroup for x and y and still no joy. Any ideas. At least it shows your trying to help yourself. For those who want to not make an effort to help themselves there is always consulting...(they can pay for it)

Jim

"George Barbour" <gbarbour_at_csc.com> wrote in message news:3bde72e0_at_pull.gecm.com...
> In general it is considered rude to use UPPER CASE in messages, tis akin
to
> shouting.
> In newsgroups it is considered rude to ask a question without researching
it
> first,:-
> in this group .....say :-
> a) Your own Oracle documentation. (RTFM "Read The '*fine*' Manual").
> b) The Google search area.
> c) The previous live threads.
> Metalink, for those who have access to it, is also pretty good.
>
> Sybrand merely vocalises this, some one should, some one needs to.
> There are world experts in this group I for one do not want anybody,
> especially someone as knowledgeable as Sybrand castigated for pointing out
> the wurd of the group to beginners.
>
> George Barbour.
>
>
> "Neil Garner" <Jim_at_garner21.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:9rgovd$edi$1_at_news5.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > Thank you for your comments.
> > My suspicion that using a newsgroup with highly educated/experienced
> > boffins, who look down on us mere mortals/learners/beginners with the
> > contempt, we obviously deserve, has once again been thoroughly
confirmed.
> >
> > Hth,
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Received on Tue Oct 30 2001 - 07:47:53 CST