Re: Sybrand Bakker

even if somebody did nothing (or don't know how ) to help himself , they should not be treated the way Sybrand treats them. If somebody do not like the post, simply dont answer that.

Faheem Rao

"Jim Kennedy" <kennedy-family_at_home.com> wrote in message news:<dcyD7.775$Fm5.329303_at_news1.sttln1.wa.home.com>...
> I agree with George. I don't think the purpose of a NG is to hand out
> answers on a platter without some effort on the posters part. The search
> for an answer has its own benefits. There is no benefit to the poster to
> answer a question that they have not tried to first find the answer to. The
> mere process of looking in the manuals or this NG for the answer is a
> benefit to the poster even if they don't find the answer. Given the
> complexity of the product it is quite possible that they will learn
> something else besides what they were looking for. If nothing else they
> gain familiarity with the structure of the documentation! I abhor the lazy
> post which usually looks like : "MS SQLServer/Access does... How do I do ...
> in Oracle?" Look at Thomas Kyte's site or his answers they basically are
> structured in most cases around the scientific method; in a subtle way
> pointing out "Why not try to dream up an example and see how it works?
> Poke the software and see how it reacts.".
>
> I would much prefer it if people put in their postings (when they are
> searching for answers), I am trying to do X. I looked in the Blah Blah
> manual at this and that and did not see anything on it. Also I searched the
> newsgroup for x and y and still no joy. Any ideas. At least it shows your
> trying to help yourself. For those who want to not make an effort to help
> themselves there is always consulting...(they can pay for it)
>
>
> Jim
>
>
> "George Barbour" <gbarbour_at_csc.com> wrote in message
> news:3bde72e0_at_pull.gecm.com...
> > In general it is considered rude to use UPPER CASE in messages, tis akin
> to
> > shouting.
> > In newsgroups it is considered rude to ask a question without researching
> it
> > first,:-
> > in this group .....say :-
> > a) Your own Oracle documentation. (RTFM "Read The '*fine*' Manual").
> > b) The Google search area.
> > c) The previous live threads.
> > Metalink, for those who have access to it, is also pretty good.
> >
> > Sybrand merely vocalises this, some one should, some one needs to.
> > There are world experts in this group I for one do not want anybody,
> > especially someone as knowledgeable as Sybrand castigated for pointing out
> > the wurd of the group to beginners.
> >
> > George Barbour.
> >
> >
> > "Neil Garner" <Jim_at_garner21.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:9rgovd$edi$1_at_news5.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > > Thank you for your comments.
> > > My suspicion that using a newsgroup with highly educated/experienced
> > > boffins, who look down on us mere mortals/learners/beginners with the
> > > contempt, we obviously deserve, has once again been thoroughly
> confirmed.
> > >
> > > Hth,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
Received on Tue Oct 30 2001 - 15:27:03 CST