RE: dba age

From: Michael Kline <mkline1_at_comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 22:41:50 -0400
Message-Id: <25998.339293@fatcity.com>

I remember creating a distributed Oracle driven Order entry system on DOS 4.1.0 running on IBM AT boxes and a Vax 750. I also wrote a dialing VAX program that would dial the PCs up, and down load their data WAY before sqlnet. That data was brought into the VAX, separated, sent to a mainframe for pricing, came back, sorted and distributed and sent back to the branches(from CT to CA)and it was ready for them the next morning. It used import/export a "basic" listening program a VAX file transfer with a pc hook, and could be programmed with an "ini" file of sorts for start time, end time, number of retries, etc. It was quite slick.

If an AT died, they had a new one within 1-2 days and it was synced in the night they set it up. We could have a "blank" set up and loaded with cust data in about 3-4 hours and out the door.

We also had to contend that orders cut in CT could be shipped from VA, which means CT gets an ack, and VA got shipping.

The Order entry, being DOS, had to be done just so, query this, then do this, there's the normal products, pick the quantities, submit. When done right, it worked GOOD... Oracle even did a write up for it. That was back when Ken Jacobs still made site visits. He vaguely remembers me, poor fellow.

I had several suggestions back then that they incorporated into what I think was the later Version 4 and 5 databases.. and they took a copy of my problem tracking system I ran there. They were impressed I had a database report of all problems and it also tracked those I fixed before Oracle did.

Ah, the good old days when everything was still KISS.

I started on an IBM 360/40 running DOS, BOS, and TOS, and POWER... Demand Deposits posting was about 2-4 boxes of punched cards. Of course that was 1971.

Maks.

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From: ml-errors_at_fatcity.com [mailto:ml-errors_at_fatcity.com]On Behalf Of Reginald.W.Bailey_at_jpmorgan.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 7:14 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: dba age

SQLPME was a program to load Oracle into extended memory on the 386 PC, if memory serves me correctly. I am over 40 and I have been dealing with relational databases for a little over 19 years. I remember punch cards, Rbase, the first IBM PCs, Oracle Forms 2, Oracle v4.5 and 5, etc. I have been dealing with Oracle databases for about 16 years as developer and DBA. (Yeesh I am starting to feel old) I am not the oldest DBA here, but I seem to have the most experience. I don't have the most hair (I keep it shaved off.) . I haven't met a database that I couldn't crash or a customer's vapor backup plan that worked the first time.

Reginald W. Bailey
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                    07/23/2003 01:59 PM
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I remember UFI, RPT-RPF, Forms 2.0 (IAD-IAG-IAP), SQL-QMX (for what it last),ODL (Oracle Data Loader), but I do not remember SQLPME . What was it

Stephane Paquette

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Gogala, Mladen
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 2:15 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Wow, I remember UFI, iapgen and RPT/RPF, but I started in 1989. Do you remember SQLPME?

Mladen Gogala
Oracle DBA
Phone:(203) 459-6855
Email:mgogala_at_oxhp.com
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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 12:44 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Let's see... I remember dirt.. I remember UFI>. I remember version 4.1.0 that ran on DOS... PC, PC-XT.. Oracle since 1983...

Good loaded question.

Maks.
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Goulet, Dick
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 12:09 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Now that's a LOADED question which I'm sure many a individual on this list will resist answering.

Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA
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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 11:55 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Now this one is difficult folks

what is average age of an experienced oracle dba ?

-ak

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