Re: pro- foreign key propaganda?
From: paul c <toledobysea_at_ac.ooyah>
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 17:04:02 GMT
Message-ID: <6IhZj.156425$rd2.113050_at_pd7urf3no>
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> The mystics here are the people who confuse a system with the reality
> that the system only mimics imperfectly, the system being at most a mere
> metaphor, for example pretending that an algebraic structure somehow
> embodies actual 'entities' or thinking that there is actually a
> relational operator called 'update', when Codd was obviously using the
> word 'update' only as a way to sound familiar to his audience.
>
>
> They are a subset of the masses who cannot make change without a
> computer. I remember when slide-rules were not allowed at some exams,
> today I meet people in the mechanical field who cannot even operate a
> calculator! That's part of the new reality in the modern semi-literate
> western societies, not to mention those who confuse oligarchy for
> democracy!
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 17:04:02 GMT
Message-ID: <6IhZj.156425$rd2.113050_at_pd7urf3no>
paul c wrote:
> Bob Badour wrote:
> ...
>> bullshit." ? I am not entirely sure I understand what you mean when >> you use the word mysticism.
>
> The mystics here are the people who confuse a system with the reality
> that the system only mimics imperfectly, the system being at most a mere
> metaphor, for example pretending that an algebraic structure somehow
> embodies actual 'entities' or thinking that there is actually a
> relational operator called 'update', when Codd was obviously using the
> word 'update' only as a way to sound familiar to his audience.
>
>
> They are a subset of the masses who cannot make change without a
> computer. I remember when slide-rules were not allowed at some exams,
> today I meet people in the mechanical field who cannot even operate a
> calculator! That's part of the new reality in the modern semi-literate
> western societies, not to mention those who confuse oligarchy for
> democracy!
Ie., meaning in machinery is merely psychological, subject to all the natural human mis-interpretations, can't express intent, mechanics and poetry will never meet even though some fools think a formal marriage is possible. I told David C not to get me started on mystics! Received on Thu May 22 2008 - 19:04:02 CEST