Re: 1GB Tables as Classes, or Tables as Types, and all that refuted
From: Jan Hidders <jan.hidders_at_REMOVETHIS.pandora.be>
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 21:31:51 GMT
Message-ID: <bDtnd.29667$ga6.1379441_at_phobos.telenet-ops.be>
>>Costin Cozianu wrote:
>>
>>>In The Third Manifesto, D&D affirm that 'tis a great blunder to equate
>>>"classes" with relations or with relation variables. Some people still
>>>believe that, although the riguorous proof of the drastic consequences
>>>supposed to follow is completely lacking.
>>>
>>>So here's a direct positive refutation, including with inheritance( well
>>>that maybe later, as it is orthogonal).
>>You are so right that it's almost boring. :-) If there had been any real
>>logical problems with letting relational variables play the role of types
>>then it would have not been possible or very difficult to come up with a
>>decent formal data model for that. It wasn't. QED
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 21:31:51 GMT
Message-ID: <bDtnd.29667$ga6.1379441_at_phobos.telenet-ops.be>
> "Jan Hidders" <jan.hidders_at_REMOVETHIS.pandora.be> ...
>>Costin Cozianu wrote:
>>
>>>In The Third Manifesto, D&D affirm that 'tis a great blunder to equate
>>>"classes" with relations or with relation variables. Some people still
>>>believe that, although the riguorous proof of the drastic consequences
>>>supposed to follow is completely lacking.
>>>
>>>So here's a direct positive refutation, including with inheritance( well
>>>that maybe later, as it is orthogonal).
>
>>You are so right that it's almost boring. :-) If there had been any real
>>logical problems with letting relational variables play the role of types
>>then it would have not been possible or very difficult to come up with a
>>decent formal data model for that. It wasn't. QED
> > Your observation is so profound that some may be uncertain if your are > sarcastic or blunt.
Actually, I was trying to be both at once. :-) But you are right. I probably shouldn't.
- Jan Hidders
