Re: database systems and organizational intelligence

"mountain man" <hobbit_at_southern_seaweed.com.op> wrote in message news:qqFsc.9763$L.1573_at_news-server.bigpond.net.au...

> If "database systems management" could evolve and grow up,
> from the foundation of the data model where it has been focussed
> for the last 30 years, you would find, I believe, that it needs to
> address the issue of organizational intelligence.

My disagreement with you is about terminology. Databases are going to be data centric for a long. long time.

Perhaps some evolution such as you describe is necessary. But, if so, I would like the terminology to evolve along with the concepts. The issue of "organizational intelligence" needs to be adreessed. Fine. But just don't call it "database systems management".

> The divergence became completely formed with the emergence of
> stored procedures in the RDBMS software, and the use of these
> objects by the RDBMS software as application components.

This is an important point. The use of stored procedures in RDBMS software certainly changes things. A theory of applications certainly needs to adress the power and the responsibility that procedures create. But it's a theory of applications, not a theory of databases.

As far as "platonic idealism" goes, I tend to agree with you. But, as much as this group tends to lean too far in that direction, the product vendors tend to bend too far the other way. They will add whatever the market demands, with little if any thought to the integrity of their whole product. After a while it becomes an indescribable mish mosh of "things that work". Received on Tue May 25 2004 - 15:33:51 CEST