Re: Date is Incomplete - database application software and database theory

From: mountain man <hobbit_at_southern_seaweed.com.op>
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 12:23:19 GMT
Message-ID: <XI0sc.6369$L.6109_at_news-server.bigpond.net.au>


"John Jacob" <jingleheimerschmitt_at_hotmail.com> wrote in message news:72f08f6c.0405212147.24e735c2_at_posting.google.com...
> > The problem relates to a satisfactory formalised definition of the term
> > "organisational intelligence". Summarily this can be defined as simply
> > the sum of all code plus the data.
> >
> > You will note that the Relational Model, being related to the data
> > alone, is inadequate for this task.
>
> The relational model specifically includes provisions for the
> definition of operators. Moreover, these operators, like all the
> objects in a relational system are exposed in the system catalog, and
> managed by the database system. So in what way does the relational
> model not provide for the management of "organizational intelligence"?

Ps see this article which I have rewritten after this series discussions over the last few days. BTW -- many thanks to all who have contributed to discussions.

http://www.mountainman.com.au/software/Theory_of_Organizational_Intelligence.htm

> On the contrary, it provides an excellent basis for this management,
> as evidenced by your own solution to this perceived problem.

The excellence of basis is as a result of running the applications (which is not addressed by the Relational Model, Date, et al) as stored procedures within the RDBMS environment.

This excellence is due to the fact that all application code external to the RDBMS involves redundancies of redefinition of the database schema (already defined by the model).

My solution addresses the interface to the applications environment of which the model says nothing.

I believe that we need a relational model and theory of organizational intelligence, and I have summarised the reasons why (process is more than just data!) in the above article.

Best wishes,

Pete Brown
Falls Creek
Oz Received on Sun May 23 2004 - 14:23:19 CEST

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