Re: Linux betas NT in TPC testing, running Oracle8

On Wed, 28 Apr 1999 08:11:44 -0500, Nik Simpson <ndsimpso_at_ingr.com> wrote:
>r.e.ballard_at_usa.net wrote:
>> : http://rpmfind.net/veillard/oracle/
>>
>> : This now points to a legal notice pointing out that they can no
>> : longer publish the results. Too bad nobody glammed on to the bottom
>> : line numbers. One of the reasons that there is such strict control
>> : of TPC numbers is that vendors don't want $/TPC benchmarks done on
>> : system like FreeBSD or Linux.
>
>You clearly have no idea about TPC benchmarks. In order to meet the
>requirements of TPC/C on say a QUAD XEON you would need something around 4GB
>of memory, 120-130 high performance SCSI disks, a large scale network to do
>the testing, 20-30 client machines etc, etc. TPC/D is even worse in terms of
>resource requirements. Basically, the only people with the money to run
>these benchmarks are the large vendors, that said, there is aboslutely
>nothing to prevent Redhat or VA Research from running validated TPC
>benchmarks and I wouldn't be surprised if they did. But fundamentally the
>TPC suite is aimed high-end OLTP environments were money is no object, and
>incidentally, the price of the OS is a tiny tiny part of the cost of the
>benchmarked configuration, so don't expect using LINUX to make a big
>difference to the $/transaction (number of transactions for that matter.)

Add to that "lack of clue" the ridiculous implication that MTS/MSMQ were somehow cloned from Linux-based software.

MSMQ bears a "more than marked resemblance" to IBM's MQSeries message queueing system, which, as far as I can tell, does not run on Linux. (FalconMQ *does* have a version of their MQSeries "clone" that runs on Linux, but that is quite recent, postdates their port to SCO, and note that it is designed to "talk" to an MSMQ server. You can't run an MQ clone on Linux at present without having an NT box around as the "controller.")

As far as I am aware, the only TP "middleware" available for Linux is:

- Tecco
- Tibco
- Tengah (maybe)
- OM3
- Cloverleaf
- Orbix
- Falcon MQ

*NONE* of which were available for Linux at the time MSMQ/MTS was released.

[Note that Tuxedo, continuing in the tradition of TP products starting with "T," is rumored to be available for Linux, and I hear rumor of formal announcements next month...]

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