Re: Where to find average salaries of Oracle programmers?

I work for Oracle and after 17 years in the business I find it to be a great company to work for, very people oriented, just check your ego in at the door.
In article <Pine.BSD.3.91.950611144834.15708B-100000-100000_at_haven.ios.com>, Jim Starwood <jstarwoo_at_haven.ios.com> wrote:
>> In case you were wondering which firm I am joining it is Big (O) Oracle itself.
>> I am joining them as a consultant in Houston. I am one of the best in Oracle and
>> I am extremely proud of it.I have published three articles in Oracle
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>You have every reason to be proud. There are many who get close to
>getting published, and some that do with approaches more useful in a
>closed system... I have not read your articles, but will assume them
>meritorious.
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>> you are interested, I can mail you the procedure so that you dont need to
>> reinvent the wheel again. I have solved many problems on this newsgroup and
>> posted solutions
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>That is the rationale behind information resources such as this forum.
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>> though most of the time, I e-mail solutions so that the
>> reruiters on the net dont get on my nerves.
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>This is a definite problem. On the other hand, I've asked questions in
>which a poster answers and the solution offered is unrealistic
>politically or economically, or just plain untested. Some people like to
>see their name up on Usenet, and maybe the recruiters need to tweak their
>capture scripts.
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>> My contention is this. I dont like working with arrogant people which was
>> heavily carried in your first posting.
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>I AM arrogant. Just one step above cynical. When someone tells me that
>it can't be done, and I feel like it ought to be possible, and I have
>time to research it, I'll try to deal with it.
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>But I have to work in a non-research environment. Read MONEY. Any time
>I assign resources to a problem, I have to be ready to justify that
>expenditure to my partner and our banks, especially when loan
>negotiations are in progress. Regulation that protects all depositors
>impacts my bank's decisions on "taking a chance" with more money as we
>attempt to expand our business. Like most people who live near the
>leading/bleeding edge, we have a lot of shelfware. haha. In our case,
>last year's 10/94 inventory showed $ 115K. That equates to the one
>year burdened cost of a *GOOD* DBA with real-life experiences...
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>> I dont definitely like being doled $$$.
>> I'd rather earn them. I will deserve my salary wherver I work. I work hard
>> and learn a lot. In case I feel that I am indispensable, I will surely ask for
>> more bucks provided of course I deserve and deliver everytime I am called
>> upon.
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>You will go very far in this world if you keep those tenets in mind.
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>> As for your PB/Forms post, I object to the use of foul language. ( I think you
>> used the f... words a couple of times) which I didint like.
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>Twice.
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>> This is a forum
>> for professionals and would you use such words at a conference say?
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>Yes. Again, censure is not an issue with me. Your new company needs to
>work on the real-life problems of its (and our) clients everywhere. I
>have personally spent close to 75 telephone hours resolving "stupid" but
>not unimportant technical issues. I spend a long time waiting for
>callbacks. I get uninspired technical support. Being civil has not
>always solved my problems. Being "professional" doesn't always engender
>expediency.
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>The next time you go to a conference (at a competing product, say), use
>the lavatory during a break and say something like "XXXXXXXX is better
>than YYYYY any day of week". Instant religious war. These are
>professionals in .com environments...
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>> As for the technical issue, Forms 4.5 with CDE is definitely a better tool
>> with an Oracle backend because of the tight coupling of the two. I have seen
>> hardcode PB people go gaga over it. Forms 4.5 with very little effort can be
>> made to run on X/MS/MAC. Isnt that cute?
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>Yes, (and I don't disagree with your Forms 4.5 assessment) but production
>applications rarely have to cross client implementation lines. Cute is
>fine for selling. But I have final responsibility in my shop for
>delivery. And I guess you know where I stand.
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>> I dont like getting personal...For me this newsgroup is sacred and I read
>> every article be it foul or not. I dont have kill files because I ignore
>> certain people and the next time around they need help I wont contribute,
>> even if I know the answer.
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>You can ignore them completely with a killfile. They just won't know it.
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>> Anyways, I am trying to wind up my Univ life and I have little time to flame
>> or fight. After I get into Oracle, I dont know whether I will post at all,
>> even though I will follow the newsgroup.
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>I wish you the best of luck. I hope that your talents are not lost (or
>overlooked) in the bureaucracy. Same wish for all others knowing that
>they *could* make a difference. I am still trying, and am happy at each
>small success, because each time I do, I get the monetary compensation
>that makes the other, more important things in life, possible.
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>Jim Starwood I like a chromatic love affair...
>jstarwoo_at_haven.ios.com one half-step at a time.
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Received on Wed Jun 14 1995 - 00:00:00 CEST