Re: [Q Newbie]: Unknown user password in Personal Oracle

From: Mubashir Cheema <cheema_at_earth.sparco.com>
Date: 31 Jan 1995 13:58:06 -0600
Message-ID: <cheema.791576045_at_nntp.msstate.edu>


deriet_at_xs4all.nl (Marcel Rietveld) writes:

>Hi there,
>This newbie wants to move from the world of Foxpro to the real world of
>databases, so I downloaded Personal Oracle. The install procedure worked
>well, so far so good.
>The only problem right now is that I cannot do a thing with it because I
>don't know a user name with valid password.
 

>Have I missed something during installation or is there a some kind of
>"first-time username" ? (or sysop username ?).
 

>Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 

>BTW if somebody could point me to some FAQs that would be great !
 

 Hehe hehe hehe hahaha hahahaha hahaha :)

 I am not trying to make fun of anybody but I am glad to see that I was  not the only one who had problems with this. You can go on and read the  Oracle FAQ, read all the help pages on passwords and User Manager. You  will find no mention of a solution to the above problem. At least I didn't.

 There is only one solution to the above problem. Purchase a support  contract worth thousands of dollars ! *They* will give you the :  "PROOF THAT YOU CAN". I mean if we could find everything we needed, in  the accompanying docs, to effectively use the Database, how would the  huge support departments be funded :) Sarcasm intended. Oracle makes  *ALOT* of money from support contracts. While I really like the idea of  letting people download the Oracle software and let them try it for 90  days. People like me who have been using small-time databases like Paradox  and Foxpro to their limits were exposed to Oracle Server. But I am confused  why Oracle tries to make things difficult for us small time people who  can't afford tech support. I spent 2 days trying to login with a valid  username and a password without any luck and eventually had to ask around.  Then I spent 4 hours trying to *import* an ascii table, using *import*  utility. After asking around I found out, I would need to use SQL*Loader.  Import sounds to me like a simple way of doing it. Oh well. It looks to  me like Oracle is trying to give us the "Proof, that you can't, without  the expensive support plans, you can't"

 User "SYSTEM"
 Password "MANAGER"  

 This is one of the few built-in accounts. I am now wondering if anybody  with TCP/IP capabilities can access my database with these passwords since  I am now running SQL*Net TCP/IP. But as you would expect, answers to these  basic questions with several others are not included with the documentation.  If it weren't for wonderful people on the net, our computers would be  Oracle-free by now.

 I am only trying to make somebody at Oracle listen and help make the  documentation that comes with Oracle, a little better than what it is.

Mubashir Cheema Received on Tue Jan 31 1995 - 20:58:06 CET

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