Re: I can't find a SETUP.EXE in the SQL Plus Client ??
From: DA Morgan <damorgan_at_psoug.org>
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 10:57:22 -0700
Message-ID: <1150999050.167171_at_bubbleator.drizzle.com>
> I guess I'm one of those DBAs DA/Sybrand would throw out on sight. Got
> the 10day DBA course, rman and dataguard courses and I now run
> a small installation where one day downtime doesn't matter that
> much and security doesn't matter at all and in any case involving
> data corruption or serious restore stuff first thing I do is ask
> for help at Metalink before I dig myself in any deeper. (Has happened
> only once so far and we got away with 45min downtime.)
>
> OTOH, I do install the client software on the PCs and set up
> accounts. And I certainly would be the one my boss would refer
> contractors like Patrick to. Then my job would be to talk this
> guy through the client installation, possibly hand him a
> tnsnames.ora and tell him the login data.
>
> That's me. I'm a programmer who runs our database as a side job.
> Our "real" administrators run the hardware and OS stuff and, unlike
> others here, we /do/ talk to each other.
>
> Lots of Greetings!
> Volker
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 10:57:22 -0700
Message-ID: <1150999050.167171_at_bubbleator.drizzle.com>
Volker Hetzer wrote:
> James Dennett schrieb:
>
>>> [DA Morgans stuff] >> Your experience of DBAs clearly differs from mine, in a wide >> variety of companies. I would not expect a DBA to provide >> any assistance except possibly in creating a suitable account, >> and would not expect that in general they be would be competent >> to help with tools.
> I guess I'm one of those DBAs DA/Sybrand would throw out on sight. Got
> the 10day DBA course, rman and dataguard courses and I now run
> a small installation where one day downtime doesn't matter that
> much and security doesn't matter at all and in any case involving
> data corruption or serious restore stuff first thing I do is ask
> for help at Metalink before I dig myself in any deeper. (Has happened
> only once so far and we got away with 45min downtime.)
>
> OTOH, I do install the client software on the PCs and set up
> accounts. And I certainly would be the one my boss would refer
> contractors like Patrick to. Then my job would be to talk this
> guy through the client installation, possibly hand him a
> tnsnames.ora and tell him the login data.
>
>> (Most organizations with databases tend, in my experience, not >> even to have a full-time DBA.
> That's me. I'm a programmer who runs our database as a side job.
> Our "real" administrators run the hardware and OS stuff and, unlike
> others here, we /do/ talk to each other.
>
> Lots of Greetings!
> Volker
I've no problem with you. Your boss, on the other hand, needs to invest in getting you some more training or he should be shown the door.
Nobody spends ten thousand dollars per CPU to store data and doesn't consider it critical to business operations.
-- Daniel A. Morgan University of Washington damorgan_at_x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond) Puget Sound Oracle Users Group www.psoug.orgReceived on Thu Jun 22 2006 - 19:57:22 CEST