Re: I can't find a SETUP.EXE in the SQL Plus Client ??

From: D. Patrick <replywithinthegroup_at_thenotreal.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 23:41:57 GMT
Message-ID: <9Pkmg.3610$MF6.1471_at_tornado.socal.rr.com>

"DA Morgan" <damorgan_at_psoug.org> wrote in message news:1150918882.511943_at_bubbleator.drizzle.com...

> D. Patrick wrote:
>> "DA Morgan" <damorgan_at_psoug.org> wrote in message 
>> news:1150908202.880906_at_bubbleator.drizzle.com...
>>> D. Patrick wrote:
>>>> "DA Morgan" <damorgan_at_psoug.org> wrote in message 
>>>> news:1150755139.673102_at_bubbleator.drizzle.com...

>>>>> D. Patrick wrote:

>>>>>> "DA Morgan" <damorgan_at_psoug.org> wrote in message 
>>>>>> news:1150747758.818897_at_bubbleator.drizzle.com...
>>>>>>> D. Patrick wrote:
>>>>>>>> I am not used to Oracle, sorry.  I need the client tool to access 
>>>>>>>> someone else's server for testing some SELECT statements I'm 
>>>>>>>> writing for them.  I went to:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/sql_plus/index.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and I downloaded the "SQL Plus Instant Client".   I just want a 
>>>>>>>> free client because I don't own the Oracle license.   I downloaded 
>>>>>>>> it, but there are just DLLs and 2 JAR files.  I don't see any 
>>>>>>>> SETUP.EXE file to start the install.  What am I missing?  How do I 
>>>>>>>> get a free Oracle client installed, if possible, so I can test some 
>>>>>>>> SQL statements.
>>>>>>> You do something you may be unfamiliar with since you aren't used to
>>>>>>> Oracle: You READ the documentation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But to flesh this out a bit more ... how are you going to connect to 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> server? The web? TCP/IP? Through a firewall? What version? Your post 
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> dangerously short of information that might affect the answer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Whoever owns the server you are connecting to ... BTW with Oracle 
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> don't connect to servers ... should be able to get you a copy of 
>>>>>>> SQL*Plus. Alternatively you might be able to use the free download 
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> SQL*Developer available at http://otn.oracle.com. Hard to tell.
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> Daniel A. Morgan
>>>>>>> University of Washington
>>>>>>> damorgan_at_x.washington.edu
>>>>>>> (replace x with u to respond)
>>>>>>> Puget Sound Oracle Users Group
>>>>>>> www.psoug.org
>>>>>> There is no documentation with that download.  There is just a 2 
>>>>>> sentence read-me file which doesn't address anything but a bug.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will connect through TCP/IP through a firewall.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just want to install the SQL Plus client tool for executing a few 
>>>>>> SQL statements.  I can't get any software from the remote person 
>>>>>> because my contact is not technical, and it shouldn't matter if the 
>>>>>> client tool is available for download anyway.  Can anyone help?

>>>>> Based on what you've written you have absolutely no business trying to
>>>>> connect (I'd use the word hack or crack) into the server. If the
>>>>> people
>>>>> that paid for the Oracle license can't provide a technical person to
>>>>> provide you with the correct tool and the required configuration file
>>>>> you are in need of being referred to law enforcement officials not
>>>>> Oracle resources.

>>>>>

>>>>> This may be a bit of an over-reaction to what you wrote but I take
>>>>> security seriously, I hope everyone does, and a non-technical person
>>>>> has no business authorizing you to do anything. Only a DBA should be
>>>>> giving you server names/IP addresses and only a DBA should give you a
>>>>> user-id and password.

>>>>>

>>>>> I encourage everyone else to not help this poster unless there is some
>>>>> reason to believe this is anything but an attempt at a break-in.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Daniel A. Morgan
>>>>> University of Washington
>>>>> damorgan_at_x.washington.edu
>>>>> (replace x with u to respond)
>>>>> Puget Sound Oracle Users Group
>>>>> www.psoug.org

>>>>
>>>> Wow.  Next time you need help, just remember how you dish it out 
>>>> yourself. I'm only asking about which is the right file to download 
>>>> because this one had no SETUP.EXE file.   I didn't realize I was asking 
>>>> for your kids' names and social security numbers!
>>>>
>>>> By the way, if a DBA set up a user account and password for a hacker, 
>>>> they have bigger problems than me.  And if a hacker was as dumb with 
>>>> Oracle as me, then there is no risk.   So:  will someone please just 
>>>> tell me what file to download that has a setup file I can run?
>>> My point was, and remains, that if you are supposed to be accessing
>>> the database then the DBA should be involved and would provide you
>>> with the appropriate tool and connection information.
>>>
>>> If you can't ask the DBA for help it equates, in my mind, with being
>>> a hacker. I've yet to meet the DBA that didn't want to make sure
>>> someone connecting to their database had the correct tools and the
>>> correct configuration.
>>>
>>> If the DBA won't help you ... there is a reason. Likely a good one.
>>> -- 
>>> Daniel A. Morgan
>>> University of Washington
>>> damorgan_at_x.washington.edu
>>> (replace x with u to respond)
>>> Puget Sound Oracle Users Group
>>> www.psoug.org
>>
>>
>> The problem is more that I'm going through multiple layers of people and 
>> vendors, and no one is technical enough to advise about connectivity 
>> issues. I'm a SQL Server tech and able to help with tech issues related 
>> to sql syntax, but just not familiar with Oracle.
>
> Sorry ... but nonsense. If they can't put you on the phone with the
> DBA then something is very wrong. And if you are going to be inside
> a database with a tool such as SQL*Plus, rather than through an
> application front-end, I don't understand how your apparent skill
> set, or lack thereof, squares with any of this.
>
> In short ... mark me still very suspicious that something is wrong
> based on the picture you are painting.
> -- 
> Daniel A. Morgan
> University of Washington
> damorgan_at_x.washington.edu
> (replace x with u to respond)
> Puget Sound Oracle Users Group
> www.psoug.org

[Quoted] [Quoted] Whatever. I was thinking you might understand that many businesses don't [Quoted] [Quoted] have DBAs on staff and contractors cannot always be reached, or businesses [Quoted] don't want to pay contractors for all issues. This is just the reality in the real world, even though you're obviously lucky enough to work for a university that doesn't have the same constraints that small businesses face.

Sincerely,
[Quoted] Your friendly stupid hacker who foolishly posts about a really stupid question that wouldn't affect any database security anyway.

(If a database were compromised by someone simply knowing how to install SQL Plus, we'd all have bigger fish to fry than me). Received on Thu Jun 22 2006 - 01:41:57 CEST