Re: Free database tools announcements - invitation to discussion

From: Ron <support_at_dbainfopower.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 11:04:15 -0700
Message-ID: <CNCdnfL9r6kC6UXdRVn-sQ_at_comcast.com>


Hello David,

> >
> > The only condition is that the announced tool stays free forever.
> >
>
> And how, pray tell, do you propose we enforce that?
>
> IMHO what's actually needed is comp.databases.oracle.announce ....
>
> David Rolfe

 I agree that announce/freetools group can be a great idea. Question is if, when and how it can be implemented.

 In regards to the "honesty" system - Surprisingly most of the people are honest - best proof of this is EBAY's success.

[Quoted]  And if someone presents "free" tool and would try to sell it later - to whom?

[Quoted]  He would ruin his face in your eyes and in eyes of thousands DBAs who are using this forum. Not just for this tool. For all tools he would produce in the future.

[Quoted]  Please, let me know if this make sense.

Regards,

  Ron
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"D Rolfe" <dwrolfeFRUITBAT_at_orindasoft.com> wrote in message news:1PQBc.2828$Z14.3489_at_news.indigo.ie...
>
>
> Ron wrote:
> > Dear colleague DBAs,
> >
> >
> >
> > On the other side, by constantly flaming new tool messages (including
> > open-source developments) the forum alienates the developer's community.
> > This community has huge potential in creating free database tools that
would
> > be very suited to practical DBA needs - due to the fact that they would
grow
> > based on feedback from real DBAs on this forum.
> >
> >
> >
> > I think that a reasonable approach to this situation is to open the
forum
> > to announcements of free database tools (from both individual developers
and
> > companies).
> >
> >
>
> The problem is that many of the so called 'free' tools are in fact being
> developed for the market by people who intend to go commercial at a
> future date. I can think of an obvious recent example of this.
>
> Why should such people be permitted to advertise when companies that are
> honest enough to be up front about the non-free nature of their products
> aren't?
>
> I work for a company that makes no bones about the fact that our stuff
> isn't free, hasn't been free and isn't going to be free for the simple
> reason it cost time and money to develop and test.
>
> We limit our USENET marketing to the marketplace forum because that's
> what most people are expecting us to do and we're more interested in
> seeding google groups than a response over the next couple of days.
>
>
> >
> > The only condition is that the announced tool stays free forever.
> >
>
> And how, pray tell, do you propose we enforce that?
>
> IMHO what's actually needed is comp.databases.oracle.announce ....
>
> David Rolfe
>
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>
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Received on Tue Jun 22 2004 - 20:04:15 CEST

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