Re: Thanks and how's the job market for Forms?

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Ryan Gaffuri wrote:

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>Oracle is throwing there development money into Jdeveloper. The fact
>that noone is writing 9i forms books is telling. These books never
>made alot of money, but its great marketing...
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I know. If I had the time I'd write one myself. I have all the material ... it is the time that doesn't exist.

>The pure Oracle developer job is slowly fading away. Its being
>replaced wtih the DBA/Developer and the Object-Oriented
>Programmer/Oracle Developer.
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Not sure that I see any evidence of that out here. I think the job, in its traditional form that is
disappearing is DBA and yes it is morphing into something quite a bit different.

>Java is not that hard. The big weakness of most oracle professionals
>is we only know Oracle. Most dont have computer science degrees where
>you get a solid grounding in programming. So its hard to cross over to
>other skills. Its like reading greek. Java is not that hard. Its
>different. I found that by learning java/c++ I RADICALLY improved my
>PL/SQL and SQL skills. Since I can compare and constrast the
>differences, plus I have a better idea of what is going on under the
>covers. Am I particularly good with OO programming? Absolutely not.
>However, I could become so if I needed to.
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I think you just made my point. A lot of people can write C. A lot of people use C++ to write C ...
and that is a tragedy. For you to think Java is easy but then state that you are not "particularly good"
with OO is exactly the point I was trying to make when I emphasized the word "WELL".

>Becoming a 'forms specialists' is a career black hole. People need to
>expand their skill sets and work at it. The best way to do this is to
>take university computer core classes. They are FAR cheaper than
>technical training. Downside is they are alot more work and take alot
>longer to complete.
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I couldn't agree more. I am one of those that teaches those university classes. The work is very
intense. But the material we cover provides the basis for people to truly learn the subject.

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