Re: Outsourcing its becoming a problem

"John Rutherford" <jr1.rutherford_at_virgin.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:7wBfb.640$b73.959852_at_newsfep1-win.server.ntli.net...

> Apologies if this is a bit off topic - But I have just come back off an oracle course - 2 people of which are
> being made redundent due to outsourcing.

> Are we having our life opportunities terminated and rolled out at a cheaper cost in these countries. I
> thought Globalisation was supposed to bring competition
And so it does. And you have suddenly discovered that "competition" means winners and losers. Did that come as a surprise to you?  

> - Instead our IT manager are giving away our livlyhoods for nothing.
No, they don't. They prevent their companies to go bust as a whole.

> So what if cheaper - Is it ethical?????
What do you mean? Do you want to hinder the free flow of goods and services? After you guys have evengelized for several decades about opening markets? Okay, the labour market has opened. You can prevent people from entering your country but if you want to insulate from labour done outside you should go to your government and ask it to erect some trade barriers and levy some tariffs on admin labour done abroad. While telling said other countries to open their markets and buy products made by foreigners (i.e. americans).

> Is it fair on your children or the society your ancestors dreamed of building.
So, how many dreams per ancestor were there and which dream did you pick? Hellooo! Wake up!

> If these people want oracle jobs than they should get of their butts and come to 1st world countries.
Why? Competition means everyone plays to their strengths. And the big devcountry strength is cheaper living.

>We should not give it to them on a plate just to save a few scents - Cause lets face it - once these economies
> try to get off their knees we will bomb them back into the stone age - But for you my oracle friends -that will
> be too late!!
Well, you know, people in those countries tend to get smarter all the time. That means, sooner or later they learn to keep quiet until they are big enough to bite back if you try to force one-sided deals on them.

> 2 things we can do
> Boycott organisations who outsource

Wrong. Use the cheap labour and educate it about their real value. Then tell them about unions. End of cheap labour and real increase in living standards for the poor guys, so big smiles all around.

> Be ethical as a customer and use vendors who do not outsource ie Pick who you bank with and by
> food from carefully- you get the idea
Isolationism. Forget it. If your government really tries it it'd need earplugs to protect their eardrums from all the laughter. Uhmm, forgot... you are doing already and your government does indeed wear earplugs. That's probably why they still allow free speech. As for the laughing, you just have to listen. And not even very hard.

Volker Received on Mon Oct 06 2003 - 15:20:14 CEST