Re: Strange Forms compile problem

Daniel Morgan <damorgan_at_x.washington.edu> wrote in message news:<1064584364.886374_at_yasure>...
> Ketil Holden wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 07:00:02 -0700, Daniel Morgan
> ><damorgan_at_x.washington.edu> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>Your posting does not compute. All .FMB files are uncompiled. The
> >>compiled version is .FMX.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >I thought so too, but my observations seem to agree with him. When I
> >do the s/r madness, the file loses some 1,7Mb. And coincidentally it
> >starts working.
> >
> This isn't a question of opinion but rather one of fact. FMXs are the
> compiled version.
>

True. But .FMB files contain both uncompiled and compiled codes for PL/SQL objects. Just do a simple test: do a replacement for all units as recommended in previous post and then generate the form. You'll see a task bar and lots of messages "Compiling ...". Then regenerate the form again. You'd barely notice the task bar. Also, you can see cross reference info for compiled objects, but can't see it for uncompiled ones.

So yes, to reduce the size of FMB file and get rid of other problems, just uncompile all PL/SQL units in the form. Same true for PLL libraries.

> >>Also note the most recent patch is 14
> >>
> >>
> >
> >I know, but the folks at oracle recommended 12. I don't know why, I
> >didn't make the call.
> >
> Perhaps when you asked 14 didn't exist. Download it and test it.
>
>
> >>and that your browser version is
> >>very old and you should be
> >>working with Netscape's latest.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Well, somehow the organization has found that Netscape 4.78 is the
> >best browser for Forms. It has less flickering that IE5 , 5,5 6.0 etc.
> >
> >All the users use Netscape 4.78, and so the developers do too. It is
> >not my decision.
> >
> >I've seen this flickering at an Oracle University course in new
> >browsers, in quite basic forms. This is not an issue of developers as
> >far as I can see, but of the product or perhaps the java gui
> >classes... I think I've seen this in JBuilder too...
> >
> I was referring to Netscape 7.1. Once again ... download it and test it.
>
> >>problems relate to the developers rather than the product.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Well, that may be. The application has been buggy and more than one
> >company has been involved in it's development. Documentation is close
> >to void, and that arguably speaks for itself.
> >
> >However, in my defence, as a recently employed maintainer of this
> >beast, I think, in any product, the save / compile routine should
> >work flawlessly 11 times out of 10. And referring to patchlevels 14
> >with regards to such problems probably says something about the
> >product as well.
> >
> >
> I'd suggest that your firm consider bringing in a Forms expert for a few
> days to a week to evaluate the beast
> and make recommendations. The problems you are experiencing are not the
> norm.
>
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