Re: a show of hands please, how many people use Oracle Forms for real apps?

From: damorgan <dan.morgan_at_ci.seattle.wa.us>
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 22:28:21 GMT
Message-ID: <3C684585.BECB65B9_at_ci.seattle.wa.us>


I would never consider running Forms on anything less than WinNT4 or Win2000. And I don't like the libraries. I develop in the Forms IDE. Either copying properties from a template or inheriting them and, as I said, I don't like the libraries.

Daniel Morgan

Scott Mattes wrote:

> Daniel,
> I developed this canvas, a block, an alert and an on-error event in a test
> bed form, where it works as desired.
>
> I then copied the event, block, canvas and alert to an object library. My
> first attempt at this for some unknown reason would result in a canvas that
> was .64x.48 instead of 640x480, but for some reason it stopped doing that.
> And that gives me all sorts of warm and fuzzies.
>
> From there I started a new form, opened the obj lib and copied, without
> subclassing, to the new form the alert, event, block and canvas. On the new
> form it works as I described. I checked all the items in the block and they
> point to the canvas. The canvas points to the window in the new form. If I
> use the block menu to switch the data appears.
>
> I checked the online help and the documents installed when forms was
> loaded and there are no gotchas indicated like with doing a disable on an
> item (how wude).
>
> I wonder what kind of development environment people are using with Forms
> to have such glowing words for the product. On Win98 and as far as I know
> all the patches for forms, we are regularly plagued by: low memory from
> some sort of leak meaning we have to save the form, shutdown forms, start
> forms and reload the form; sometimes the wrong canvas comes up when first
> run, the only way to clear this is tot reboot; gotta be sure to do a full
> compile right after loading the form or unpredicable results occur at run
> time (it is like it doesn't recompile everything if you just do a run), and
> a host of other little things (I'm leaving out my personal predjudice for
> Delphi, really I am).
>
> Thank you for any and all help.
>
> "Daniel A. Morgan" <damorgan_at_exesolutions.com> wrote in message
> news:3C646786.11558302_at_exesolutions.com...
> > This is an very commonly used tools in large corporations. I have used it
> > extensively at Boeing and AT&T and am currently using it in multiple
> > applications, both under development and upgrades, for the City of Seattle
> > Washington.
> >
> > Developer (IDS) is like any other tool. You must learn to think the way
> the
> > tool works. Once you do ... it is intuitive. Until then ... it is ugly.
> >
> > Likely you have not assigned your data block to the correct canvas but it
> is
> > hard to say from here.
> >
> > Daniel Morgan
> >
> >
> >
> > Scott Mattes wrote:
> >
> > > I am having one of those 'I can't believe this tool" days and again am
> > > wondering if people really get anything productive done with it.
> > >
> > > Today's misadventure: on my system if I do a hide_view, the next time I
> do
> > > a show_view the canvas and the prompts appear, but none of the data. I
> can
> > > see the data during debug, but it doesn't show on the screen.
> > >
> > > My version information:
> > >
> > > Forms [32 Bit] Version 6.0.8.12.1 (Production)
> > > Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.7.2.0 - Production
> > > With the Partitioning option
> > > JServer Release 8.1.7.2.0 - Production
> > > Oracle Toolkit Version 6.0.8.12.1 (Production)
> > > PL/SQL Version 8.0.6.0.0 (Production)
> > > Oracle Procedure Builder V6.0.8.12.1 Build #520 - Production
> > > PL/SQL Editor (c) WinMain Software (www.winmain.com), v1.0 (Production)
> > > Oracle Query Builder 6.0.7.0.0 - Production
> > > Oracle Virtual Graphics System Version 6.0.5.36.0 (Production)
> > > Oracle Tools GUI Utilities Version 6.0.5.35.0 (Production)
> > > Oracle Multimedia Version 6.0.5.34.0 (Production)
> > > Oracle Tools Integration Version 6.0.8.10.2 (Production)
> > > Oracle Tools Common Area Version 6.0.5.32.1
> > > Oracle CORE Version 4.0.6.0.0 - Production
> >
Received on Mon Feb 11 2002 - 23:28:21 CET

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