Re: Anyone Actually using Dev/2000 Server / Web Enabled forms ?
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 15:10:34 GMT
Message-ID: <7kdnh0$jnr$1_at_nnrp1.deja.com>
Hi,
I've just finished prototyping the deployment of a Thick Client Server Oracle forms application. It is just about to go off for user acceptance testing. I would be grateful if you would send the location of the paper to which you refer...
"there is an excellent paper by Peter Koletzke or Paul Dorsey on Webenabled Forms (mainly discussing what doesn't work yet...)"
...just in case the users through up any surprizes.
Cheers,
Box.
In article <FdP33.34138$pj7.269034_at_news2.giganews.com>,
"Chana Campos" <chana_at_campos.org> wrote:
> So far - while the idea of "thin client" is very in vogue - we don't
really
> feel the technology is quite 'there' yet. In our shop, the pure Forms
> applications which went over the Web had major problems - strobing
menus,
> inability to use combo boxes, restrictions on menus, graphics, etc.
etc.
> etc. They also happen to be slower than death - even a floor
away...but the
> IT department here never wants to "touch" another client if they can
help
> it...(I guess the fact that people are going to lunch waiting for
their apps
> to download really isn't a consideration. ) Also, there have been
major
> problems with Forms which were developed on NT being ported over to
Solaris
> for deployment. Boilerplate text is a HUGE problem - it comes out
grossly
> oversized and they have not been able to figure out how to correct the
> problem. Oracle admits this is an 'issue'.... Our users are also
pretty
> outraged at the loss of some Windows functionality/GUI which they
have come
> to take for granted - but now have lost going through the Web....we
have
> also discovered that generating Web modules through Designer and then
trying
> to tweak the PL/SQL modules from there is a complex and nightmarish
task -
> one which is far better off avoided.
>
> Our Designer apps however, are coming through the Web in far better
shape
> than the 'pure' Developer Forms...fine - we aren't generating them
through
> WebServer - but as Forms...but they are still performing more
efficiently
> than the regular Developer apps. Of course, we designed for web
deployment
> from the get-go and will be able to make modifications if we decide
to go
> client-server in a straight-forward manner... As an example, we have
> practically no boiler-plate text - so no surprises there...
>
> So - discover the limitations early on - and then design for them
from the
> ground up if you're going to be using Developer alone - there is an
> excellent paper by Peter Koletzke or Paul Dorsey on Web-enabled Forms
> (mainly discussing what doesn't work yet...) - if you're interested
let me
> know and I'll send the reference along...
>
> Chana Campos
>
>
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