Re: To Steve Cosner, please stop encouraging SPAM
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 12:05:48 GMT
Message-ID: <7d5bmo$cr6$1_at_nnrp1.dejanews.com>
> I also noted that Arthur Kolman, in addition to promoting his own
> product, offers helpful answers and suggestions to other questions in
> this newsgroup. He seems to be actually contributing to the Oracle
> community's general knowledge base while putting in some occasional
> "why don't you try my product" suggestions.
Sir, I did my own research and Mr Kolman's postings were negligible.
Your defence of the blatant spam by Squeal Solutions is itself indefensible and fraught with logic problems. It is irrelevant what vendors may otherwise post, they may not post pure SPAM. Advertising of ANY nature is pure spam. One can not buy a ticket to place spam in newsgroups by also posting relevant, on-topic messages.
Mr Dieckmann of KeepTool also plugs his Hora tool regularly but the ONLY thing that keeps me from getting terribly upset about his postings is that they are always simply "why don't you take a look at Hora at aaa.kkkk.com". In contrast, Squeal Solutions regularly -- not merely on occasion as you implied -- posts HUGE advertising in this and other forums each and every week. That is in flagrant violation of netiquette.
As for "actually contributing to the Oracle community," not one man has done more for the Oracle community than has the author of TOAD. Working extraordinary hours to develop and support a product used by countless developers and DBA's with virtually no reward. I have myself reported a bug only to have a fix the next day. Yet, he hamstrung a commercial venture by continuing a freeware version of the commercial software (see a post in this forum this morning on that issue). He deserves any and all support users are willing to provide.
I will also continue to protest SPAM in this newsgroup (or any newsgroup), both to those who place it and directly in this forum to ensure that each
spam is followed by masses of outraged emails. Maybe then these people will cease. I agree with Oracle Man on another point, if these tools were of ANYuse whatsoever, they would not require such shameless pitching. The one good thing about these threads is that they are undoubtedly having a negative effect on the product reputations of these vendors.
> To the contrary, your posts seem to have the tone of "TOAD is the only
> tool anyone should be using".
Obviously, you haven't yet tried Toad. The only tools that compare are much more expensive and very much larger.
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