Re: Am I the only one annoyed by ORA- error message sites?
From: The Boss <nltaal_at_baasbovenbaas.demon.nl>
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 16:03:37 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID: <013f34bf-52ef-4656-8eec-fa6b2e2813ff_at_v26g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>
On Jan 21, 10:37 pm, Steve Howard <stevedhow..._at_gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 21, 12:40 pm, joel garry <joel-ga..._at_home.com> wrote:
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> > On Jan 21, 8:38 am, Mark D Powell <Mark.Powe..._at_hp.com> wrote:
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> > > On Jan 21, 9:56 am, Steve Howard <stevedhow..._at_gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > Per the subject line, this drives me bonkers. I have a particular
> > > > error message for which I am searching a solution. All I end up with
> > > > are hits for some moron that wrote...
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> > > > i=1;while [ $i -le 30000]; do
> > > > oerr ora $i
> > > > i=$(($i + 1))
> > > > done
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> > > > ...and uploaded the output on the internet.
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> > > > There...now I feel better :)
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> > I hear ya. I wonder if the problem is the lack of oerr on windows?
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> > > Finding good information of interest can be a problem. So often your
> > > top web hits are one of "he who must not be named" 20 different
> > > heavily cross-linked web sites where the information just cannot be
> > > trusted.
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> > > I usually try to search Oracle support first, followed by OTN, and
> > > sometimes comp.databases.oracle.* before resorting to wide open
> > > searches.
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> > > HTH -- Mark D Powell --
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> > If it's a oracle error, I do similar, except I use the wide open
> > search second, it's better than the otn search and often has otn, cdo
> > and oracle-l links high up anyways. As John noted, just a few words
> > can push away the annoying sites, especially with plus signs on words
> > or quoted phrases not in the error messages. I mentally reject some
> > sites anyways.
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> > I'm still a little surprised people don't use MOS first for error
> > messages.
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> > While trying an error message search to remember a site I mentally
> > reject, I noticed a DMCA takedown notice on the google results page
> > (not the first page, apparently starting about 10 result pages in),
> > pointing at this: http://www.chillingeffects.org/notice.cgi?sID=30399
> > Experts-exchange suing some guy in Vietnam for copyright infringement,
> > they submitted a DMCA to google, guy in Vietnam submitted a counter-
> > DMCA-claim to google.
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> > So why does Oracle not use DMCA on google? Maybe they have bigger
> > fish to fry:http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011/01/new-evidence-supports-oracles...
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> > jg
> > --
> > _at_home.com is bogus.http://www.informationweek.com/news/security/app-security/showArticle...
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> I usually find what I need (on either google or MOS), it's just that I
> always have to mentally eliminate the first page and half to two pages
> of google hits, after briefly scanning them. I also do a lot of
> literal searches ("literal string of words"), so that will also be
> problematic since those will bubble up as they are the best matches.
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> It's just the information "mooching" by this type of site that drives
> me crazy. Not a huge deal, just an annoyance.
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 16:03:37 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID: <013f34bf-52ef-4656-8eec-fa6b2e2813ff_at_v26g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>
On Jan 21, 10:37 pm, Steve Howard <stevedhow..._at_gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 21, 12:40 pm, joel garry <joel-ga..._at_home.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 21, 8:38 am, Mark D Powell <Mark.Powe..._at_hp.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 21, 9:56 am, Steve Howard <stevedhow..._at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Per the subject line, this drives me bonkers. I have a particular
> > > > error message for which I am searching a solution. All I end up with
> > > > are hits for some moron that wrote...
>
> > > > i=1;while [ $i -le 30000]; do
> > > > oerr ora $i
> > > > i=$(($i + 1))
> > > > done
>
> > > > ...and uploaded the output on the internet.
>
> > > > There...now I feel better :)
>
> > I hear ya. I wonder if the problem is the lack of oerr on windows?
>
> > > Finding good information of interest can be a problem. So often your
> > > top web hits are one of "he who must not be named" 20 different
> > > heavily cross-linked web sites where the information just cannot be
> > > trusted.
>
> > > I usually try to search Oracle support first, followed by OTN, and
> > > sometimes comp.databases.oracle.* before resorting to wide open
> > > searches.
>
> > > HTH -- Mark D Powell --
>
> > If it's a oracle error, I do similar, except I use the wide open
> > search second, it's better than the otn search and often has otn, cdo
> > and oracle-l links high up anyways. As John noted, just a few words
> > can push away the annoying sites, especially with plus signs on words
> > or quoted phrases not in the error messages. I mentally reject some
> > sites anyways.
>
> > I'm still a little surprised people don't use MOS first for error
> > messages.
>
> > While trying an error message search to remember a site I mentally
> > reject, I noticed a DMCA takedown notice on the google results page
> > (not the first page, apparently starting about 10 result pages in),
> > pointing at this: http://www.chillingeffects.org/notice.cgi?sID=30399
> > Experts-exchange suing some guy in Vietnam for copyright infringement,
> > they submitted a DMCA to google, guy in Vietnam submitted a counter-
> > DMCA-claim to google.
>
> > So why does Oracle not use DMCA on google? Maybe they have bigger
> > fish to fry:http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011/01/new-evidence-supports-oracles...
>
> > jg
> > --
> > _at_home.com is bogus.http://www.informationweek.com/news/security/app-security/showArticle...
>
> I usually find what I need (on either google or MOS), it's just that I
> always have to mentally eliminate the first page and half to two pages
> of google hits, after briefly scanning them. I also do a lot of
> literal searches ("literal string of words"), so that will also be
> problematic since those will bubble up as they are the best matches.
>
> It's just the information "mooching" by this type of site that drives
> me crazy. Not a huge deal, just an annoyance.
Jonathan and Tanel to the rescue!
http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2008/06/10/firefox/ [pointing to a firefox add-on and a (less sophisticated) IE version]
http://blog.tanelpoder.com/2008/06/17/experiments-with-google-custom-search-engine/ [explaining and pointing to Tanel's "Soda Search" engine at:] http://tanelpoder.com/search/
HTH
-- JReceived on Fri Jan 21 2011 - 18:03:37 CST