Re: Am I the only one annoyed by ORA- error message sites?
From: Steve Howard <stevedhoward_at_gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 13:37:08 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID: <d271437c-34bd-425d-a1d9-29d8b3a4b234_at_d8g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>
On Jan 21, 12:40 pm, joel garry <joel-ga..._at_home.com> wrote:
> On Jan 21, 8:38 am, Mark D Powell <Mark.Powe..._at_hp.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 21, 9:56 am, Steve Howard <stevedhow..._at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Per the subject line, this drives me bonkers. I have a particular
> > > error message for which I am searching a solution. All I end up with
> > > are hits for some moron that wrote...
>
> > > i=1;while [ $i -le 30000]; do
> > > oerr ora $i
> > > i=$(($i + 1))
> > > done
>
> > > ...and uploaded the output on the internet.
>
> > > There...now I feel better :)
>
> I hear ya. I wonder if the problem is the lack of oerr on windows?
>
>
>
> > Finding good information of interest can be a problem. So often your
> > top web hits are one of "he who must not be named" 20 different
> > heavily cross-linked web sites where the information just cannot be
> > trusted.
>
> > I usually try to search Oracle support first, followed by OTN, and
> > sometimes comp.databases.oracle.* before resorting to wide open
> > searches.
>
> > HTH -- Mark D Powell --
>
> If it's a oracle error, I do similar, except I use the wide open
> search second, it's better than the otn search and often has otn, cdo
> and oracle-l links high up anyways. As John noted, just a few words
> can push away the annoying sites, especially with plus signs on words
> or quoted phrases not in the error messages. I mentally reject some
> sites anyways.
>
> I'm still a little surprised people don't use MOS first for error
> messages.
>
> While trying an error message search to remember a site I mentally
> reject, I noticed a DMCA takedown notice on the google results page
> (not the first page, apparently starting about 10 result pages in),
> pointing at this: http://www.chillingeffects.org/notice.cgi?sID=30399
> Experts-exchange suing some guy in Vietnam for copyright infringement,
> they submitted a DMCA to google, guy in Vietnam submitted a counter-
> DMCA-claim to google.
>
> So why does Oracle not use DMCA on google? Maybe they have bigger
> fish to fry:http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011/01/new-evidence-supports-oracles...
>
> jg
> --
> _at_home.com is bogus.http://www.informationweek.com/news/security/app-security/showArticle...
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 13:37:08 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID: <d271437c-34bd-425d-a1d9-29d8b3a4b234_at_d8g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>
On Jan 21, 12:40 pm, joel garry <joel-ga..._at_home.com> wrote:
> On Jan 21, 8:38 am, Mark D Powell <Mark.Powe..._at_hp.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 21, 9:56 am, Steve Howard <stevedhow..._at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Per the subject line, this drives me bonkers. I have a particular
> > > error message for which I am searching a solution. All I end up with
> > > are hits for some moron that wrote...
>
> > > i=1;while [ $i -le 30000]; do
> > > oerr ora $i
> > > i=$(($i + 1))
> > > done
>
> > > ...and uploaded the output on the internet.
>
> > > There...now I feel better :)
>
> I hear ya. I wonder if the problem is the lack of oerr on windows?
>
>
>
> > Finding good information of interest can be a problem. So often your
> > top web hits are one of "he who must not be named" 20 different
> > heavily cross-linked web sites where the information just cannot be
> > trusted.
>
> > I usually try to search Oracle support first, followed by OTN, and
> > sometimes comp.databases.oracle.* before resorting to wide open
> > searches.
>
> > HTH -- Mark D Powell --
>
> If it's a oracle error, I do similar, except I use the wide open
> search second, it's better than the otn search and often has otn, cdo
> and oracle-l links high up anyways. As John noted, just a few words
> can push away the annoying sites, especially with plus signs on words
> or quoted phrases not in the error messages. I mentally reject some
> sites anyways.
>
> I'm still a little surprised people don't use MOS first for error
> messages.
>
> While trying an error message search to remember a site I mentally
> reject, I noticed a DMCA takedown notice on the google results page
> (not the first page, apparently starting about 10 result pages in),
> pointing at this: http://www.chillingeffects.org/notice.cgi?sID=30399
> Experts-exchange suing some guy in Vietnam for copyright infringement,
> they submitted a DMCA to google, guy in Vietnam submitted a counter-
> DMCA-claim to google.
>
> So why does Oracle not use DMCA on google? Maybe they have bigger
> fish to fry:http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011/01/new-evidence-supports-oracles...
>
> jg
> --
> _at_home.com is bogus.http://www.informationweek.com/news/security/app-security/showArticle...
I usually find what I need (on either google or MOS), it's just that I always have to mentally eliminate the first page and half to two pages of google hits, after briefly scanning them. I also do a lot of literal searches ("literal string of words"), so that will also be problematic since those will bubble up as they are the best matches.
It's just the information "mooching" by this type of site that drives me crazy. Not a huge deal, just an annoyance. Received on Fri Jan 21 2011 - 15:37:08 CST