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If MySQL comes to have the same capabilities that many people expect
from Oracle, marketing will have no effect. The huge differential in
price
point will be all that matters.
Jared
DENNIS WILLIAMS <DWILLIAMS_at_LIFETOUCH.COM>
Sent by: ml-errors_at_fatcity.com
01/19/2004 04:04 PM
Please respond to ORACLE-L
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Subject: RE: Oracle vs Mysql
Sounds like the old Oracle vs. Ingress battles. Oracle won because it was better at marketing. All detailed in the book "The Difference Between God and Larry Ellison". I can see it now -- MySQL, the Oracle of the free databases.
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 4:39 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Ryan,
It's postgres.org. I'm not sure how they generate the
operating
Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 5:05 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
i thought postgre was a for profit company? how do they generate revenues?
----- Original Message -----
To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 4:19 PM
> 1) DBI is a perl module to handle the communication with various
databases.
> 2) Postgres is free. I believe that you can buy commercial support, but
I
don't know
> where. May be Rich can jump in with that.
> 3) DBI is free and so is perl. I'm cheap & easy, but not free.
>
>
> On 01/14/2004 02:34:52 PM, Ryan wrote:
> > what is DBI?
> >
> > is postgre free? Is it like linux where you pay for support? I cant
find
any
> > licensing info on the website. Most shops dont need oracle, sql
server,
> > sybase, or DB2.
> >
> > Most applications are small. I was on a project where the government
had
an
> > Oracle EE license on windows. They didnt even use foreign key
constraints.
> > Had a whopping 13 tables, 20 MB of data, and 10-15 users. Any free
database
> > could have handled that.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 1:44 PM
> >
> >
> > >
> > > On 01/14/2004 12:44:25 PM, "Jesse, Rich" wrote:
> > > > If you have the choice, look at PostgreSQL in addition to MySQL.
From
> > what
> > > > I've seen, it's more mature than MySQL.
> > >
> > > I second that. PostgresSQL supports transactions and uses perl as
its
> > > scripting language. From what little I read and saw (just a little
pilot
> > > project with the goal to see "what the heck is Postgres"), it's a
very
> > > decent database, with a decent performance and capabilities
sufficient
> > > for a small, departmental database server. I know nothing of
clustering,
> > > distributed database, database links, replication and alike. In
other
> > words,
> > > I wouldn't use it for an enterprise-wide server for GE or Wall-Mart,
but
> > > it can be quite a convenient storage space for a small corner shop
or
a
> > > small department. Because of perl and DBI, exchanging data with
other
> > > servers like oracle or UDB (DB2) is easy.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mladen Gogala
> > > Oracle DBA
> > > --
> > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net
> > > --
> > > Author: Mladen Gogala
> > > INET: mladen_at_wangtrading.com
> > >
> > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com
> > > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting
services
> > >
-- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Ryan INET: ryan.gaffuri_at_cox.net Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Goulet, Dick INET: DGoulet_at_vicr.com Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: DWILLIAMS_at_LIFETOUCH.COM Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). --=_alternative 0008CA2488256E21_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">If MySQL comes to have the same capabilities that many people expect</font> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">from Oracle, marketing will have no effect. The huge differential in price</font> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">point will be all that matters.</font> <br> <br> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Jared</font> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br> </font> <br> <br> <br> <table width=100%> <tr valign=top> <td> <td><font size=1 face="sans-serif"><b>DENNIS WILLIAMS <DWILLIAMS_at_LIFETOUCH.COM></b></font> <br><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Sent by: ml-errors_at_fatcity.com</font> <p><font size=1 face="sans-serif"> 01/19/2004 04:04 PM</font> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> </font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Please respond to ORACLE-L</font> <br> <td><font size=1 face="Arial"> </font> <br><font size=1 face="sans-serif"> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com></font> <br><font size=1 face="sans-serif"> cc: </font> <br><font size=1 face="sans-serif"> Subject: RE: Oracle vs Mysql</font></table> <br> <br> <br><font size=2 face="Courier New">Sounds like the old Oracle vs. Ingress battles. Oracle won because it was<br> better at marketing. All detailed in the book "The Difference Between God<br> and Larry Ellison". I can see it now -- MySQL, the Oracle of the free<br> databases.<br> <br> Dennis Williams<br> DBA<br> Lifetouch, Inc.<br> dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com <br> <br> -----Original Message-----<br> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 4:39 PM<br> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L<br> <br> <br> Ryan,<br> <br> It's postgres.org. I'm not sure how they generate the operating<br> revenue they need, but that's why they are not advertising like MySql AB is.<br> <br> Dick Goulet<br> Senior Oracle DBA<br> Oracle Certified 8i DBA<br> <br> -----Original Message-----<br> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 5:05 PM<br> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L<br> <br> <br> i thought postgre was a for profit company? how do they generate revenues?<br> ----- Original Message -----<br> To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com><br> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 4:19 PM<br> <br> <br> > 1) DBI is a perl module to handle the communication with various<br> databases.<br> > 2) Postgres is free. I believe that you can buy commercial support, but I<br> don't know<br> > where. May be Rich can jump in with that.<br> > 3) DBI is free and so is perl. I'm cheap & easy, but not free.<br> ><br> ><br> > On 01/14/2004 02:34:52 PM, Ryan wrote:<br> > > what is DBI?<br> > ><br> > > is postgre free? Is it like linux where you pay for support? I cant find<br> any<br> > > licensing info on the website. Most shops dont need oracle, sql server,<br> > > sybase, or DB2.<br> > ><br> > > Most applications are small. I was on a project where the government had<br> an<br> > > Oracle EE license on windows. They didnt even use foreign key<br> constraints.<br> > > Had a whopping 13 tables, 20 MB of data, and 10-15 users. Any free<br> database<br> > > could have handled that.<br> > > ----- Original Message -----<br> > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com><br> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 1:44 PM<br> > ><br> > ><br> > > ><br> > > > On 01/14/2004 12:44:25 PM, "Jesse, Rich" wrote:<br> > > > > If you have the choice, look at PostgreSQL in addition to MySQL.<br> From<br> > > what<br> > > > > I've seen, it's more mature than MySQL.<br> > > ><br> > > > I second that. PostgresSQL supports transactions and uses perl as its<br> > > > scripting language. From what little I read and saw (just a little<br> pilot<br> > > > project with the goal to see "what the heck is Postgres"), it's a very<br> > > > decent database, with a decent performance and capabilities sufficient<br> > > > for a small, departmental database server. I know nothing of<br> clustering,<br> > > > distributed database, database links, replication and alike. In other<br> > > words,<br> > > > I wouldn't use it for an enterprise-wide server for GE or Wall-Mart,<br> but<br> > > > it can be quite a convenient storage space for a small corner shop or<br> a<br> > > > small department. Because of perl and DBI, exchanging data with other<br> > > > servers like oracle or UDB (DB2) is easy.<br> > > ><br> > > > --<br> > > > Mladen Gogala<br> > > > Oracle DBA<br> > > > --<br> > > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net<br> > > > --</font> <br><font size=2 face="Courier New">> > > Author: Mladen Gogala<br> > > > INET: mladen_at_wangtrading.com<br> > > ><br> > > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com<br> > > > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services<br> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------<br> > > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message<br> > > > to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in<br> > > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L<br> > > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may<br> > > > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).<br> > ><br> > > --<br> > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net<br> > > --<br> > > Author: Ryan<br> > > INET: ryan.gaffuri_at_cox.net<br> > ><br> > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com<br> > > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services<br> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------<br> > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message<br> > > to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in<br> > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L<br> > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may<br> > > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).<br> > ><br> ><br> > --<br> > Mladen Gogala<br> > Oracle DBA<br> > --<br> > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net<br> > --<br> > Author: Mladen Gogala<br> > INET: mladen_at_wangtrading.com<br> ><br> > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com<br> > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services<br> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------<br> > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message<br> > to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in<br> > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L<br> > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may<br> > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).<br> <br> -- <br> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net<br> -- <br> Author: Ryan<br> INET: ryan.gaffuri_at_cox.net<br> <br> Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com<br> San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services<br> ---------------------------------------------------------------------<br> To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message<br> to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in<br> the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L<br> (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may<br> also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).<br> -- <br> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net<br> -- <br> Author: Goulet, Dick<br> INET: DGoulet_at_vicr.com<br> <br> Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com<br> San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services<br> ---------------------------------------------------------------------<br> To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message<br> to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in<br> the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L<br> (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may<br> also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).<br> -- </font> <br><font size=2 face="Courier New">Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net<br> -- <br> Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS<br> INET: DWILLIAMS_at_LIFETOUCH.COM<br> <br> Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com<br> San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services<br> ---------------------------------------------------------------------<br> To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message<br> to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in<br> the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L<br> (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may<br> also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).<br> </font> <br> <br> --=_alternative 0008CA2488256E21_=-- -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: INET: Jared.Still_at_radisys.com Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).Received on Mon Jan 19 2004 - 19:42:07 CST
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