you are being kind. I was there, and was amazed that Gaja was as calm
as he was before he walked out.
I think we scared the next speaker (also on this list) with the venting
we ALL did.
I did try to correct something the speaker said by asking a question
with the correct answer in the question. he insisted he was right....
at which point I left.
- "Karniotis, Stephen" <Stephen_Karniotis_at_compuware.com> wrote:
> I'll add to John's comments. It took John, Kirti & myself to keep
> Gaja calm
> during the presentation. Once we all walked out, Gaja went outside
> and
> vented. Their solution is unusual as they believe that performance
> can
> optimized by adding hardware to the solution.
>
> Thank You
>
> Stephen P. Karniotis
> Product Architect
> Compuware Corporation
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 3:24 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: Senware AutoDBA
>
> FWIW, someone from Senware presented a paper at IOUG 2002 titled
> 'Performance management from the ground up' (or somthing like that)
> which
> was a load of &*$% to say the least. Most of the audience (many on
> this
> list) walked out in disgust after the first 10 minutes.... (Does
> someone
> remember the 'green peas' story?) If their product is even twice as
> good as
> their rep, it would not be worth considering.
>
> I am not blaming their desperate tactics however. Anything to sell a
> product
> in this economy :( Just came off a marketing call on the office
> phone for
> services I don't need!
>
> John
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jared.Still_at_radisys.com [mailto:Jared.Still_at_radisys.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 11:04 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: Re: Senware AutoDBA
> >
> >
> > Interesting web site.
> >
> > They claim to eliminate chained rows by rebuilding the tables.
> > I'd like to see how they intend to do that.
> >
> > They also claim that their product can detect corrupt indexes
> > and rebuild them. How hard can it be to detect ORA-1578?
> > This kind of thing is fairly rare, and hardly seems worth the
> > resources to run DBMS_REPAIR or dbv to check for.
> >
> > Their MO is hardly new. IBM has had a team in place for years
> > designed to make an end run around the purchasing mgr/DBA/whoever
> > when their product wasn't selected. They go to upper mgt to
> > try and convince them of the foolish mistake the product
> > evaluators made.
> >
> > Not surprising that others follow their lead.
> >
> > Jared
> >
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