Re: The same simple question to relational theorist (with video now).

On 20 avr, 10:45, Eric <e..._at_deptj.eu> wrote:
> On 2013-04-20, Evgeniy Grigoriev <grigorie..._at_gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Hi Cimode.
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> > Thank you. Really also I don't want to think about physical
> > representation, data independence and difference between logical tables
> > and relations. All these are very important, but I don???t want to think
> > about these things, I have a system to care about them instead of me.
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> > I just want my data be _represented_ as a set of relations to get
> > advantages of RM to manipulate and operate the data in relational
> > perspective. Do you remember what a relational system is? Just
> > "represented", not "stored" and not even "described".
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> > There is tons of bullshit over very simple and powerfull relational
> > formalism. It seems to me that you prefer to dig this bullshit by hand,
> > I use bulldozer.
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> You want to deal only with relational representations? Good. You have
> your "bulldozer" system? Good. Is it fast, reliable, scalable and safe?
> It had better be, and you can expect people to question this. Does it
> have usable and flexible tools to define how data is mapped (in both
> directions) between the relational representation and whatever the
> "bulldozer" uses for storage?  I doubt it, because such mappings are an
> unresolved and probably unresolvable problem.
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> > Al last one question.
> > Have you seen my demo? (You could see the bulldozer in action).
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> > Please use just yes/no in your answer, without any attempts to explain
> > why. I understand all relational genius's arguments. The main one is
> > "because only I understand everything, nobody else". Nothing personal :)
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> This is an open forum, there is no point in trying to specify how people
> should structure their responses to you. If, in addition, you turn out
> to be one of those people who get annoyed with others who don't follow
> your specifications, and refuse to talk to them unless they do, you will
> have no credibility whatsoever.
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> Are you sure that you too are not claiming to be the only one who
> understands everything?
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> Eric
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> ms fnd in a lbry
The bulldozer reminds me of the following quote

"it is impossible to sharpen a pencil with a blunt axe. It is equally vain to try to do it with ten blunt axes instead."

Edsger Dijkstra Received on Sat Apr 20 2013 - 21:53:28 CEST