Re: Real World (Re: Mixing OO and DB)

On Mar 18, 2:28 am, "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mail..._at_dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:36:29 -0700 (PDT), topmind wrote:
> > On Mar 17, 2:19 pm, "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mail..._at_dmitry-kazakov.de>
> > wrote:
> >> On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:43:45 -0700 (PDT), topmind wrote:
> >>> rpost wrote:
>
> >>>> OK, it's partly abstract and intangible, but in the end money buys
> >>>> you food, laws can make people go to jail, etc.
>
> >>> Yes, abstract ideas can *result* in tangible results. Al Kiida belief
> >>> that the dude upstairs will reward them with wine, women, and song for
> >>> twisted martyrdom is an abstract idea; but the result was planes
> >>> smashing into NY buildings.
>
> >> On the contrary, these people have quite concrete ideas, about good, evil,
> >> means and ends. It is for you God is an abstract idea, for them he and his
> >> will is *data*, recorded facts...
>
> > So if I pray to the Relational God? (As in "Coddammit!")...
>
> You are free to do so. More abstract it is, less influence it has on the
> others. Unfortunately the Relational God is quite concrete. It has money
> thirsty idols (RDBMS). Not that people (customers) much believe in it. Just
> following the Pascal's Wager principle they could require us to pay tribute
> to the idols of the Relational God (to install a RDB) in our dynamic and
> mission-critical systems. That hurts (both them and us).
>
> >>> which subroutines and stored procedures can perform well.
>
> >> You should propose a relational and declarative solution, which
> >> *subroutines* are clearly not. These are implementations of behavior
> >> decomposed into subprograms. Your claim is that there is no need in such
> >> thing.
>
> > No I didn't. They each compliment each other.
>
> Blasphemy! Now, you'll be damned... (:-))

Damn, I mean Darn, that's the 3rd time this month. Does hell have a frequent frier discount?

>
> --
> Regards,
> Dmitry A. Kazakovhttp://www.dmitry-kazakov.de

-T- Received on Tue Mar 18 2008 - 17:38:47 CET