Re: Newbie question on table design.
Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 10:10:10 -0600
Message-ID: <m3lkg5yjkt.fsf_at_garlic.com>
"David Cressey" <cressey73_at_verizon.net> writes:
> I know practically nothing of CDC culture, but quite a bit about DEC
> culture, going way back. My impression of CDC culture, gleaned indirectly
> from what Niklaus Wirth had to say about the CDCmachines, is that CDC
> culture discovered interactive development later than DEC culture did. I'm
> just about certain that IBM culture discovered interactive development later
> than DEC culture did. This is somewhat related to the topic at hand.
I've often commented that it wasn't that IBM culture didn't have interactive development ... which was compareable to features/size of most other vendors (that might be considered interactive) ... it was that in the 60s, 70s & much of the 80s, the batch market size dwarfed the interactive.
in afc ng ... i've often mentioned that the number of vm/43xx customer
installs were larger than vax/vms installs ... in part because some
number of large customers would order then in blocks of 100s at a time
(i don't believer there were ever any single vax/vms orders for 1000
machines ... until possibly you got to microvax). misc. old email
discussing 43xx activity
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#43xx
internally ... all the original relational/sql work was done on vm ...
lots of past system/r posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#systemr
and the internal network was larger than the (whole) internet/arpanet from just about the beginning until sometime mid-85 ... and was nearly all vm machines. misc. past internal network postings http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet
one of my hobbies was building and supporting highly modified custom
operating system for internal distribution. i've periodically joked that
the number of customer batch systems were much larger than the number of
customer vm systems. the number of customer vm systems were much larger
than the total number of internal vm systems. the total number of
internal vm systems were much larger than the peak number of internal vm
systems that i provided distribution and support for. however, that peak
number (that i directly built, distributed, etc) was still as large as
the total number of multics systems that ever existed. this comparison
was somewhat because the vm stuff had started on the 4th flr of 545 tech
sq ... and the multics stuff was on the 5th flr ... misc. past posts
about science center and 545 tech sq
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech
in the early 80s ... bitnet/earn for a time was compareable in size to internet. bitnet/earn was based on similar vm technology used in the internal network ... but totally different network http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#bitnet
it wasn't that the IBM culture involved in interactive was smaller than other vendors interactive activity ... it was that the batch market acitivty was so much larger, that skewed perception.
for some topic drift ... post mentioning recent news article http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007i.html#68 A tribute to Jim Gray Received on Thu May 03 2007 - 18:10:10 CEST