Re: Bob needs a new catchphrase

From: JOG <jog_at_cs.nott.ac.uk>
Date: 31 Oct 2006 04:57:13 -0800
Message-ID: <1162299433.618905.264690_at_e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>


David Cressey wrote:
> "paul c" <toledobythesea_at_dbms.yuc> wrote in message
> news:yUz1h.225498$1T2.162721_at_pd7urf2no...
> > Gene Wirchenko wrote:
> > > Bob Badour <bbadour_at_pei.sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > > ...
> > > What gets me is how could people think that
> > > <quantity>6</quantity>
> > > and the like are anywhere near sane.
> > > ...
> >
> > Apart from that, why enforce hierarchy (not really my question, many
> > others asked it first), a very discredited approach. But those two
> > effects were enough for me to want to write xml off, as all the touted
> > advantages I read of had to either with programmability using
> > self-styled OO languages or readability. So from the start, I assumed
> > both so-called advantages (free of context and capable of database
> > importance at the same time) were not real, just some kind of in-joke.
> > The noise about xml that persists almost ten years later makes we wonder
> > if there was a deep fundamental point about that I've been missing all
> > this time. My personal, perhaps wrong theory is the authors were
> > hackers of the most deprecated kind, the ones who take a very narrow
> > view and try to magnify it into a global context. I'm sure they had
> > some inspiration and I don't want to disparage that as it is one of our
> > most rare and important abilities to have but it is nothing without
> > discipline.

>

> I honestly think that this phenomenon, and others like it, keep occuring
> because most people learn programming before they learn data management.
> Perhaps in some future generation, people will learn the fundamentals of
> data before they learn how to write code.

I was inferring this in an old thread 'what I have learnt from databases' before it turned into an flaming exercise. The industry we are in is Information Technology - why is it so obsessed with the 'technology' part and so lacking in knowledge on 'Information' part? Tech fetishism I tell you. Received on Tue Oct 31 2006 - 13:57:13 CET

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