Re: The wisdom of the object mentors (Was: Searching OO Associations with RDBMS Persistence Models)
From: Bob Badour <bbadour_at_pei.sympatico.ca>
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 13:31:43 GMT
Message-ID: <35Xfg.16493$A26.381450_at_ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>
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> Since I've mentioned it a few times in this thread, it may appear
> that I'm "pushing hard." But I coined the phrase in 2002, and
> have mentioned it only about ten times since then. I have
> never mentioned it in any odd numbered years, for example.
>
> The fact that people routinely massively underestimate the
> power and importance of the dbms needs to be publicized.
> Because of this, you regularly hear people stating such
> ridiculous requirements as wanting to be able to swap
> out a dbms for a flat file!
>
> And if we have learned anything from OOP, it is that
> a concept is much easier to sell if it has a catchy name!
>
> (Oh, and I'll take "Spight's Zeroth," please.)
>
> I like it!
>
> Heh. He's quite the writer.
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 13:31:43 GMT
Message-ID: <35Xfg.16493$A26.381450_at_ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>
Marshall wrote:
>>Marshall wrote: >> >>Man, you sure are pushing hard for a legacy. Do you not intend to number >>your laws? Should we take that as Spight's First Law? Or Spight's Zeroth >>Law? And law of what?
>
> Since I've mentioned it a few times in this thread, it may appear
> that I'm "pushing hard." But I coined the phrase in 2002, and
> have mentioned it only about ten times since then. I have
> never mentioned it in any odd numbered years, for example.
>
> The fact that people routinely massively underestimate the
> power and importance of the dbms needs to be publicized.
> Because of this, you regularly hear people stating such
> ridiculous requirements as wanting to be able to swap
> out a dbms for a flat file!
>
> And if we have learned anything from OOP, it is that
> a concept is much easier to sell if it has a catchy name!
>
> (Oh, and I'll take "Spight's Zeroth," please.)
Spight's Zeroth Law of Data Dynamics?
>>Are we allowed to paraphrase? Like, for instance, would you accept >>someone reworking it to: "Spight's Law: Necessity is the mother of >>re-invention." ?
>
> I like it!
I don't think it is adequate though because it involves more than necessity. It is more like "Necessity and ... are the mothers of re-invention" but what comes after the "and" ? Ignorance? Myopia? Expediency? Haste? Recklessness?
So many good candidates...
>>>PS. Props to Greenspun's Tenth. >> >>You and your obscure references to interesting geeks. You caused me to >>waste an entire afternoon reading various and sundry snippets from >>Greenspun's sites.
>
> Heh. He's quite the writer.
Yes, he is. Received on Fri Jun 02 2006 - 15:31:43 CEST