Re: Modelling Considered Harmful
From: mAsterdam <mAsterdam_at_vrijdag.org>
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:28:41 +0200
Message-ID: <426fcbc4$0$155$e4fe514c_at_news.xs4all.nl>
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> I can't. I offered the definitions in the OP and offered the observation
> that a working db is more of a record-keeping system than a model. You say
> the words mean something to you w/o reference to the definitions, it seems
> to be for you a free-floating axiom, which cannot be argued with.
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 19:28:41 +0200
Message-ID: <426fcbc4$0$155$e4fe514c_at_news.xs4all.nl>
Kenneth Downs wrote:
> mAsterdam wrote:
>>Kenneth Downs wrote: >>>gnuoytr wrote: >>> >>>>but an ERP/BOM database is used as a guide to build widgets. >>> >>>an erp system is uses the records of demand to generate requests for >>>supply, and to prove the requests were made by making a record of them. >>>Record-keeping. The allocation process makes it automated record-keeping >>>actually. >> >>The way I use this vocabulary: "The allocation process is the model >>of one aspect of the business, it's datamodel is a part of that >>model. The database and procedures conforming to that model provide >>the record-keeping to support this aspect of the business." >> >>ISTM this makes sense, and I don't (yet? convince me :-) see how >>making this statement without the word model would better help me >>understand.
>
> I can't. I offered the definitions in the OP and offered the observation
> that a working db is more of a record-keeping system than a model. You say
> the words mean something to you w/o reference to the definitions, it seems
> to be for you a free-floating axiom, which cannot be argued with.
> As for allocation, it is a process. Before computers it was conducted by
> people.
And it still is. By fewer people, yes.
> Unless they were striking in appearance, we did not call them
> models. The program replaces a human being in performing a record-keeping
> task, nothing more.
Are 'model' and 'record-keeping' things on the same scale? I don't see it. Received on Wed Apr 27 2005 - 19:28:41 CEST