Re: database systems: an environment of roles & players

mountain man wrote:
> "mAsterdam" <mAsterdam_at_vrijdag.org> wrote in message
> news:4260d199$0$95207$e4fe514c_at_news.xs4all.nl...
> > mountain man wrote:
> >> "dawn" wrote
> >>>mountain man wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>In the following tabulation we list a number of different
> >>>>roles and players that would normally be associated with
> >>>>the database systems environment at any organisation.
> >>>
> >>>Your list doesn't look like something "associated with the
database
> >>>systems environment at any organisation" but only with those
> >>>organizations employing a relational model -- is that correct?
> >>
> >> No, it was supposed to be for any organisation over
> >> a certain size, at which time they will all have invested
> >> in some DBMS of some form. It need not be related
> >> to the RM.
> > [snip]
> >>>>==================================
> >>>> DATABASE SYSTEMS ROLE-TYPES
> >>>>==================================
> >>>>
> >>>>--------------- Internal to the organisation:
> >>>>I01 - business owner(s)
> >>>>I02 - business executives and managers
> >>>>I03 - general organisation work-groups/end-users
> >>>>I04 - DBA
> >>>
> >>>This role, as typically defined in an organization supporting
> >>>SQL-DBMS's does not exist at companies not supporting SQL-DBMS's.
> >>>
> >>>I would add a "data modeling" role, however, which seems to be
required
> >>>independent of implementation tools.
> >
> > The 'Data administrator' specializes in meaning, consistency,
language
> > used in datamodels. I have seen DA's in SQL and non SQL shops. I
have also
> > seen sites who should need a DA but lacked the cooperative culture
needed
> > to sustain the work.

>
>

Since you are not indicating "positions" but "roles" it makes sense to me to indicate that there is a role for data modeling, another for data administration, and another for database administration.

> >>>>I05 - IT manager
> >>>>I06 - internal programmers
> >>>>I07 - specialised development teams
> >>>>I08 - Operations & help desk personnel
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>--------------- External to the organisation:
> >
> > Why the Internal/External split?

>
>

For each of these roles, an individual playing that role might actually work for the company with the data being addressed or be contracted for either directly, through a contracting firm, or even through an outsourcing firm. I agree that the Internal/External designation being applied to a role isn't helpful. If a particular position is assigned a role, it could also be assigned an employment classification.

> Also, it enables
> a perspective to be placed on the self-independence
> of an organisation on IT resources, and/or in the
> complimentary sense, whether that organisation
> relies heavily on outsourced skills.

It would likely help to get more information on how you intend to use these classifications. What is the purpose of this information?

Cheers! --dawn Received on Sat Apr 16 2005 - 17:02:40 CEST